Great, if you have any issues or questions, feel free to email here or
directly. Or use the Git issue thing etc.

Whilst creating it I came up with a spin off that maybe we can discuss.
I'll email you directly later.

Cheers Ian.

On 23 Jan 2017 23:21, "Svante Schubert" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Ian,
>
> Thank you very much for the pointer.
> I have not seen the ODF Explorer before and it seems very worth to take a
> deeper look into it.
> During installation I have seen that you are using as well the
> MultiSchemaValidator and I like the idea of using GraphViz together with a
> browser front-end.
>
> As I said, definetly worth to take a closer look into it!
> Thanks again for the pointer, Ian!
>
> Cheers,
> Svante
> ᐧ
>
> 2017-01-22 13:47 GMT+01:00 Ian C <[email protected]>:
>
> > Hi Svante,
> >
> > have you seen the ODF Explorer tool I created.
> >
> > Available from https://github.com/hammyau/ODFExplorer
> >
> > and http://hammyau.github.io/ODFExplorer/ tries to show some more how to
> > use it.
> >
> > The tool there is wrapped in a nodejs web server. But doesn't really need
> > to be, the underlying Java is standalone.
> >
> > Hope that helps. And if not please contact me directly I have been
> playing
> > around looking into ODF documents for a while now.
> >
> > And would love to get some feedback and extend the thing for a real user.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Svante Schubert <
> > [email protected]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I need some feed-back of yours!
> > > I would like to analyse the ODF XML schema a little more to create test
> > > documents, which are valid variations of a certain ODF feature.
> > >
> > > Think of a paragraph. It is represented by the <text:p> element.
> > > If ODF applications would like to have 'sufficient' test documents of
> the
> > > paragraph feature. How would they proceed?
> > > Straight forward someone would generate a test document with none, one
> or
> > > some random number of generated paragraphs on root level.
> > >
> > > What else can we think of? Paragraphs being part of header & footer
> come
> > to
> > > my mind.
> > > Perhaps a paragraph within a cell? To generalize these cases - within
> > > different ODF feature.
> > >
> > > But how do we know that we have tests for all type of variations?
> > > The only possible way seems to me to take a look into the ODF schema.
> > >
> > > If you open the ODF 1.2 XML RelaxNG schema
> > > <http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-
> > v1.2-os-schema.rng>
> > > in
> > > an editor or viewer you may find one reference to the <text:p> element:
> > > <define name="text-p">
> > > <element name="text:p">
> > > <ref name="paragraph-attrs"/>
> > > <zeroOrMore>
> > > <ref name="paragraph-content-or-hyperlink"/>
> > > </zeroOrMore>
> > > </element>
> > > </define>
> > > Which is used 19 times throughout the schema.
> > > The question is: Are there 19 distinct feature scenarios to be tested?
> > >
> > > When you try to take a look at some of those occurences, you quickly
> > > realize that it is very cumbersome to jump back in forth within the
> text
> > > file.
> > > For this reason the Toolkit is generating an HTML file in one of his
> > tests.
> > >
> > > After 'mvn install' on all sources you may find the follwing file
> > > odftoolkit20170121/generator/schema2template/target/OdfReference.html
> > > I have shared for ease of use at OdfReference.html via public dropbox
> > > (1.8MB) <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/
> 49473263/OdfReference.html
> > >.
> > >
> > > As you see that in the HTML the RelaxNG sequence and choice is yet
> > missing.
> > > The generator is not evaluating those, yet.
> > >
> > > If you are curious how this works:
> > > The RelaxNG is being parse by using Sun Microsystems
> MultiSchemaValidator
> > > (MSV). A tool that is able to load DTD, W3C schema and RelaxNG into a
> > > common internal model and use any of them for XML validation.
> > > Our generator project is using MSV to create an internal model of the
> ODF
> > > 1.2 RelaxNG schema and create the typed source classes for the ODFDOM
> > > project by filling data into templates from the Apache Velocity
> project.
> > > Basically text files with Java source code, which are accessing data
> from
> > > environment variabels like Java maps in our case the MSV model.
> > >
> > > Interesting in this context is the dump of the internal model that can
> be
> > > found at
> > > odftoolkit20170121/generator/schema2template/target/odf12-msvtree.dump
> > > Again I have shared it odf12-msvtree.dump via public dropbox (0.6MB)
> > > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49473263/odf12-msvtree.dump>.
> > >
> > > So I would like to have some feed-back of you guys?
> > > What are the possible ways to proceed on this task?
> > > Is it feasable to load the model of the RelaxNG into a GraphDB to do
> some
> > > analysing. For instance, can a certain element be nested?
> > > Also I would add metadata to elements which belong to a user feature.
> > Like
> > > all elements that belong to a table, or elements that are basically
> just
> > > boilerplate, such as <office:body>.
> > >
> > > What you think? Any experiences in this area by anyone? Any thoughts
> are
> > > welcome!
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > > Svante
> > > ᐧ
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ian C
> >
>

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