David,

Sure, I'd be happy to post any of this on the ofbiz site. What do you like? Should I do some of it?

Si


On Sep 9, 2006, at 11:54 PM, David E Jones wrote:


Si,

This is a great set of comments, and a good description of what makes organizations successful when dealing directly with a project like OFBiz.

Would you be interested in posting these comments, or some like them, on the ofbiz site?

-David


On Sep 9, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Si Chen wrote:

Hi Walter,

You caught me at a good time for this one... Here are some comments based on our experience using OFBiz at Gracious Style, these are some things I could tell you:

At this point we're using opentaps/OFBiz for online sales, order entry, inventory, warehouse, shipping and fulfillment, some manufacturing, and basic financials around those. We will eventually end up replacing about half a dozen homegrown and commercial packages which were somehow "integrated" together.

The reason we originally went with the solution as a user were:
- Superior technology
- Lower cost
- Greater flexibility

Vendor lock-in was actually not something we understood at the time, although now it seems to be a serious problem for a lot of mid-tier commercial software users because of all the consolidation going on.

Our feeling originally was that many of the small business packages were lightweight and highly inflexible, so that as our business grew and changed, they would not be able to keep up with growing volume or with completely new business needs. For example, if we got a package which was meant for mail order catalogs but later wanted to do more manufacturing, retail, or services, we'd be pretty much out of luck.

Overall, we feel we've gotten exactly what we were looking for--a highly technologically sophisticated package with tremendous flexibility to support unique and new business needs at a fraction of the cost of a comparable commercial package. We've also made significant investments, both in learning about the project and contributing to its development, but we feel overall it has been more than justified.

I believe that the people who are most successful with open source software are these traits:

1. A true understanding of what open source software brings to the table. Some people hope that open source software is either free as in "without cost" or compare it with commercial software on a price/feature basis, but both of these miss the point. Open source business applications give you the freedom to build a platform on which to build you business and control your destiny in a way that commercial software never could.

2. A willingness to embrace and engage the community. I think the biggest mistake I've seen is people who download the software and then go off on their own to try to make it work and keep everything as their own. At best they achieve their limited original objectives but end up cutting themselves off from the continuing innovation of the community. More often than not, though, they simply don't even get that far, because they're not tapping into the tremendous knowledge and insights behind the software.

Conversely, people who become part of the community, learn to get help from other members of the community, and in turn contribute back to help the community are ultimately the ones who are most successful with it. Open source is successful because of collaboration, and we can succeed together or fail on our own here.

3. An ability to understand technology and manage its risks. People who are most successful with open source software are comfortable with and interested in technology, want to be in control of their own technology future, and know how to manage possible risks should they arise. Conversely, people who can't or don't want to understand technology and want to let a well-known software vendor decide for them typically can't ever get comfortable with the idea of open source software.

I've often heard people turn away saying "I don't want in the software/technology business. I'm just a ______." The perverse thing, however, is that we're all in the technology business these days. Think about your corner used bookstore, your local antique shop, and your newspaper classified advertising section. Don't they compete against Amazon, eBay, and Craigslist? If they're not in the technology business, will they be in business?

Have a great weekend :)

Si


On Sep 9, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Walter Vaughan wrote:

I am writing an article for the November issue of SEMA News
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=1004
that will revolve around using open source software in small and medium sized companies. I would appreciate any tips or success stories before Monday evening. I didn't get the go ahead 'til Thursday night, and it's due Tuesday....

Thanks

--
Walter


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