Jacques,

Could you re-read my original comments? Copied here:

Just be careful with these sorts of tools...

The thing to keep in mind is that a big point of formatting things
consistently is to avoid changes showing up in patches that are
formatting only and that make it harder to see functionality changes.

Fixing formatting is a good thing, just be sensitive about making
difficult to read patches more difficult with a whole bunch of
unrelated formatting changes. Putting those in a separate commit is a
nice thing.

What I said was use them, but use them carefully and considerately and be aware of why they are good/bad and what their impact can/will be.

As for formatting patches: I wouldn't recommend it. Anything that splits or combines lines is guaranteed to mess up a patch, and if something is more context aware (ie beyond tabs to spaces sorts of things) they can cause problem in the unified patch headers and such.

-David


On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

David,

I finally made this recommendation in my comment :
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Coding+Conventions? focusedCommentId=698#comment-698

Thanks to have scrutinized this, team work experience I guess ;o)

Jacques

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Spaces for tabs


David,

So the policy might be to use this tools only when creating new files and not when "patching" them ?

I may change my comment in http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ Coding+Conventions accordingly.

Jacques

From: "David E Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just be careful with these sorts of tools...

The thing to keep in mind is that a big point of formatting things
consistently is to avoid changes showing up in patches that are
formatting only and that make it harder to see functionality changes.

Fixing formatting is a good thing, just be sensitive about making
difficult to read patches more difficult with a whole bunch of
unrelated formatting changes. Putting those in a separate commit is a
nice thing.

-David


On Nov 13, 2006, at 11:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Thanks a lot Scott,

This is a "must have". I recommend it warmly. Using it with Ctrl+I
in Eclipse we will not have to care no more for indentation and
tabs in any files (including FTL)
I also discovered that Scite has "Strip trailing spaces" feature in
Tools menu but with this plugin it's not needed anymore.

I put a comment with my previous remarks about AnyEdit in
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Coding+Conventions

Jacques

From: "Scott Gray"
Hi Jacques

I use AnyEdit plugin for eclipse http://andrei.gmxhome.de/anyedit/
I just noticed their new version can show tabs and white space in
the editor

Regards
Scott

Jacques Le Roux wrote:
I just found the wonderful command Ctrl+I in Eclipse 3.2. A must
to correct indentation and transform tabs to spaces after
having
set like indicated below.

Is somebody aware of a command/tool in Eclipse (or even off) able
to get rid of useless spaces and tabs at end of lines ?

Thanks

Jacques

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Spaces for tabs



Hi all,

Willing to ease this redundant Spaces for Tabs format problem
here is a text I propose to put in
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best
+Practices

mixing informations from
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/uid/wiki/index.php?
title=Getting_Started#Configure_Your_Development_Environment
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDEV/Developing
+Geronimo+in+Eclipse
http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz_eclipse.php
here are some updated help to allow using spaces in place of
tabs in source files in Eclipse 3.

<<
We don't want tab characters in text files in SVN, because
different editors and tools interpret tabs differently. All
indentation
should be done purely with spaces.
To change tabs to spaces in Eclipse, change these preferences in
Window -> Preferences ->
    1. Java -> Code Style -> Code Formatter -> Show... -> Java
Conventions [built-in] -> Indentation, select Tab policy as
"space
only". Enter a new name for this profile and click "OK".
2. Java -> Editor -> Typing, and check "Insert spaces for tab".
    3. Ant -> Editor -> Formatter, and uncheck "Use tab
character instead of spaces".
    4. If you installed Colorer, Colorer Library Editor -> Uses
spaces instead of tabs.
    5. If you installed XML Buddy, XMLBuddy -> Formatting ->
Uses spaces instead of tabs.
    6. Unfortunaltely neither of the 2 main FreeMarker pluggin
have similar functionnality yet. So for FTL files you have to do

that

manually with an external editor.

For point 6 I'm not sure if there is not a better way to do that
in Eclipse 3, any idea ?

If some have time and experience maybe we could do the same
thing for at least NetBeans ?

BTW,  it seems that groups.csail.mit.edu has a way to avoid
finding tabs in source files : "Our Subversion repository will

actually

reject commits that include tabs in text files, so you'd better
fix this now, or face pain later.". Could that possible in
Apache
SVN ?

Jacques







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