Okay, it should all be in place in SVN rev 476486, including moving the pos component and getting build.xml and component-load.xml files in place and such.

-David


On Nov 18, 2006, at 12:43 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

That's great.
David, if you'll have the time to setup things in the repository to support this new kind of stuff (e.g. a new folder and new component- load xml file etc.) I'll take care of importing there the hend held application.
Jacopo


David E Jones wrote:
On Nov 15, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
David,

this sounds like a good idea.
However, the new "special purpose" components should still be focused on a business/functional area instead of a specific platform. For example, the upcoming "hand held" component should be a new application, with a simplified ui suitable for hand held devices, to manage warehouse tasks; if we will need an hand held ui for, let's say, workeffort tasks, this will go into a different component: we should avoid to create a new component based ona specific platform, e.g. hend held version of OFBiz in one big component.

Should we consider the POS a good candidate for this new group?
Yes, that's a good distinction. The new hand held application would be in this group because it is a special purpose or role oriented application for certain warehouse management tasks, and not because it is a hand held application instead of an HTML one. And yes, we should probably move the pos component because it would fit in the category of a special purpose add-on applications.
And last but not least, I think that these extensions should be considered 'official' OFBiz components, and the decisions about them will be taken in the same way they are taken from the components in the application folder (not like the ones in the specialized folder).
Yes, very much so. That is why I mentioned the sufficient interest and certain other points. We don't want these getting separated and falling off like the specialized apps did. These are a bit different in intent, so hopefully this won't be a problem.
-David
Jacopo

David E Jones wrote:
Just a quick note on something related to some conversations I've had recently (including one at the users conference), and this Jira issue:
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-226
There seems to be some interest in creating more special purpose applications that are meant to be used generally by a person in a specific role, or that are meant to work along with the "core" applications but make things easier for certain activities or processes. We might eventually have lots of these (including this one), so it might be good to have a separate top level folder for these so that they don't have to do in the "applications" folder. In a way this would be like the old "specialized" folder, but with a couple of distinctions. These components should be:
- limited in scope to a certain role or activity in an organization
- be mostly based on existing artifacts (forms, services, entities, etc) in the components in the applications directory - should have enough interest from multiple parties that they will likely be maintained over time - should not become personal crusades that are almost a fork of OFBiz itself (ie functionality should always go in the applications directory components and be re-used and special purposed in these add-on components) Some examples that people have talked about or that exist elsewhere would be applications for: - Asset Maintenance (special UI pulling from Facility, Product, Accounting, Order, etc) - Sales Force Automation (special UI pulling from Party, Marketing, Product, Order, etc) Does anyone have any thoughts on this or what we might call it? In general these are aggregations of screens from the "core applications", plus special screens to tie things together and enable specific processes or activities.
-David



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