Just to be clear, I am not sure that 2.2 would
eliminate the problem.  I have nothing running on
JPublish to test it.  I'm only making the assumption
that it might work based on the change log making
mention of change of namespace in 2.3


--- Si Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> David, Andy -
> 
> I agree completely on having standards for the code.
> 
> It's not a matter of putting new jpublish code into
> OFBIZ but just a  
> matter of giving people backward compatibility so
> they can stay with  
> the project and, as a result, hopefully continue to
> contribute to it.
> 
> As a pragmatic solution, how about we try Chris
> Howe's suggestion to  
> use bsf-2.2 instead of -2.4, so we can just either
> keep jpublish.jar  
> in the project or at least keep it compatible with
> OFBIZ?
> 
> On Dec 13, 2006, at 3:26 PM, A. Zeneski wrote:
> 
> > I see no reason to maintain the jpublish code in
> OFBiz. Due to the  
> > fact
> > all future components and enhancements to existing
> components will all
> > be widget based.
> >
> > If the core OFBiz no longer depends on JPublish,
> then I see no  
> > reason to
> > maintain the old code.
> >
> > On the flip side, older versions of OFBiz which
> are not being  
> > updated to
> > use the current version will continue to include
> the JPublish  
> > component
> > and should have no effect on these projects.
> >
> > All new contributions to OFBiz should follow the
> widget pattern, as  
> > such
> > I see no point in maintaining the old JPublish
> handlers.
> >
> > I don't like the idea of new contributions
> following older patterns.
> > IMO, the code (ajax) should be converted to use
> JSON request handler
> > pattern. I assume that since JPublish was used,
> this was intended to
> > follow the XML method for responses.
> >
> > Maybe we should open up more discussion regarding
> new patterns. I  
> > see a
> > number of AJAX being implemented in the near
> future and my biggest  
> > fear
> > is that all of these will be following different
> patterns.
> >
> > We need to set a standard and follow it through
> the code base.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > David E Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> From a project perspective a branch seems like a
> lot of overhead for
> >> this. Are you saying that you want to maintain
> such a branch? This  
> >> would
> >> include regular merges, etc.
> >>
> >> The Screen Widget has been around for over 2
> years, and JPublish  
> >> hasn't
> >> been maintained in at least that much time.
> Perhaps it's time to
> >> recommend that everyone stop using it?
> >>
> >> Part of the trouble is that there are other
> things that JPublish  
> >> depends
> >> on that we'll want to update or change, and any
> of those (like  
> >> bsf) that
> >> get in the way of updating other things will just
> branch out to a big
> >> old problem...
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 13, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Si Chen wrote:
> >>
> >>> How about we make a branch called "newbsf"? We
> can put all the  
> >>> changes
> >>> for the new bsf jars there, and if Adam ever
> shows up with a new
> >>> jpublish then we can merge it back in?
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 13, 2006, at 2:11 PM, David E Jones
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not opposed to this.
> >>>>
> >>>> It would have been nice if this had come up as
> an approach during
> >>>> earlier and ongoing discussions as quite a few
> changes have now  
> >>>> been
> >>>> made to exclude JPublish (it would have to be
> put back into the
> >>>> NOTICE/LICENSE files, the Libraries Included in
> OFBiz page, removed
> >>>> from the OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES and change build
> files, code, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> We would also need to keep a repository or at
> least a patch and
> >>>> how-to somewhere so the jar file could be
> reproduced.
> >>>>
> >>>> -David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 13, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Si Chen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> David,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We and some other people we work with all have
> OFBIZ-based
> >>>>> applications from the ofbiz 3.x days which are
> jpublish-based,  
> >>>>> so to
> >>>>> remove jpublish from the SVN and put in
> something which is
> >>>>> incompatible with it basically breaks all of
> our applications and
> >>>>> forces us to start to diverge from the core
> ofbiz code base in  
> >>>>> a way
> >>>>> that we don't want to.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I know what you mean about jpublish being not
> actively maintained,
> >>>>> but the flipside it seems just to work ok for
> us, so we don't need
> >>>>> to do too much for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I guess if we can coordinate with Adam Heath
> to get a new
> >>>>> bsf-compatible jpublish in the SVN then
> everything will be fine.
> >>>>> Until then, are you planning to do something
> with the new bsf
> >>>>> modules?   Could it wait until Adam finds it
> in his kindness to  
> >>>>> send
> >>>>> us an updated jpublish that he keeps
> promising?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 13, 2006, at 12:13 PM, David E Jones
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do we really want to do this? Part of the
> reason we wanted to
> >>>>>> remove JPublish is that there doesn't seem to
> be much a community
> >>>>>> around it and no one is maintaining it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In other words, if we want it in OFBiz, we
> have to maintain it...
> >>>>>> Unless it is really useful for something, I
> have a big problem  
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> that...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, I guess in order to decide it would be
> good to know what  
> >>>>>> you're
> >>>>>> planning on (or have done) with JPublish that
> wouldn't work with
> >>>>>> other things... and then see if that
> justifies maintaining  
> >>>>>> JPublish.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -David
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Si Chen wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When do you think you can send this in?
> >>>>>>>
> 
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