Hi Federico

Le 01/01/2013 19:06, Federico Leva (Nemo) a écrit :
> Emmanuel Engelhart, 01/01/2013 17:12:
>> WPAR has a permanent "intelligent" notice using a gadget called
>> AdvancedSiteNotice (IMO the best approach).
> 
> Thanks. As ar as I can see it's a JS they use to alternate five
> different messages some of which can be shown only to logged in users,
> sysop etc., but the one on Kiwix is shown to everyone. Correct?

I don't know exactly how it's configured on WPAR, but I think this is
only displayed to anonymous (not logged) users. This is certainly a good
approach to not bother logged users who are mostly pretty good informed
about such topics. What I find interesting with this notice system is
that this is really not intrusive (only a line), each user can remove a
message easily, you can specify your audience and vary your messages.

> I see since early November they have about 3 thousands visit per day to
> their project page on Kiwix.
> <https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A:Gadget-AdvancedSiteNotices.js&action=edit>
> 
> <https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:%D8%A5%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D9%85%D9%88%D9%82%D8%B9_%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86%D8%A9&action=edit>
> 
> <https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D8%B3>
> 
> <https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:%D8%A5%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D9%85%D9%88%D9%82%D8%B9_%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86%D8%A9/%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A9&action=edit>
> 
> <http://stats.grok.se/ar/201212/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D8%B3>

Yes and I get ~500 visitors per day from WPAR... but IMO the WPAR
"landing page" could be improved to be more convincing (that's only my
opinion).

> I now see there's also a page about it:
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects/Case_Studies/2012_ARWP_Site_Notice>

Yes, IMO this is important on WPAR.

>> WPFA and WPES (still running) have had both setup a central notice
>> during two weeks.
>>
>> I have heard nothing about WPIT.
> 
> Ok. On it.wiki we have a rather thin section on Kiwix,
> <https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Download_di_Wikipedia#Kiwix> (it
> links a video, can you upload it to Commons so that it can be embedded?).

Should I? Is that good enough? The video is now two years old? Someone
motivated to make a new screencast? This would be really great...
especially with the new kiwix server feature in the 0.9rc2.

> Where should I prepare a page to point Italian users to? Ideally it
> would be your main page made translatable with the Translate extension
> (if you install it, I can do the manual work). Otherwise we can fallback
> to a Meta translatable page, to a "manual" translation or to that local
> page.

Great, what I propose is:
* A landing page on WPIT, like on WPAR where users are redirected. On
this page you can explain with a Wikipedia focus what it is, etc... You
may also provide directly a link to download Kiwix or Kiwix with Wikipedia.
* Would be great to propose on www.kiwix.org a welcome page in Italian
(like we have in Farsi, German, French, Spanish...) at
http://www.kiwix.org/index.php/Main_Page/it

> I'll then propose a sitenotice on it.wiki; if we had a translatable page
> we could also propose a centralnotice.

Would be awesome.

Let us know about your progresses
Emmanuel

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