Gabe: great first logo! Let's use it.
Florence: I do not have access to the chapter wiki. We were just all
added to a mailing list, and invited to appoint 2 people from each
user group to join the list. Then I believe the list will together
come up with a proposed mechanism for nomination, which will be
reviewed by the WMF Board within 2 weeks. Would you like to be added
to that list?
I will forward the last email on the topic that I've gotten. I am
willing to be the other person from WOW, but this is a busy month so I
would also be glad to see another person step up.
Warmly, SJ
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 3:15 AM Florence Devouard <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello
Le 04/03/2019 à 20:30, Samuel Klein a écrit :
For group contacts + reports : It would be good to have an
annual nomination thread, and short wiki vote, a few months
before our annual report? (/August/ each year)
Ok. So we could put that back on the table around May ?
That way we can use the same energy to summarize what's been
happening; those involved in active projects should feel welcome
to be liaisons; and we keep the meta pages up to date.
On board voting:
For information, the signpost (well, Bluerasberry) has published
this that is worth reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-02-28/In_focus
+ Arranging private votes has been a perennial weakness for the
movement. Would others be interested in public discussion of
pros/cons of different candidates?
For information :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats
Ok, vote is one thing. Nomination is another.
So to start with, I am not sure what is currently the process for
nominating candidates...
Apparently, voting takes care on the ChapterWiki, which is a
private wiki (I suppose that Sam has access to it... do you Sam ?)
I presume that nomination process also takes place on the
ChapterWiki ? Can you tell us if that is the case Sam ?
+ I respect the concerns around voting multiple times: we want
people to be comfortable joining many groups while only voting
once. Is there any proposal yet re: how to do this?
Unclear
+ Say that, per Nemo, only incorporated groups vote in the final
selection. Perhaps we could share formal recommendations with
that group, before their vote (and sort those out on Meta).
As said previously, ALL groups can vote. It is not restricted to
incorporated groups.
But indeed, we can also simply choose to NOT vote. But if so, this
is something we should explicitely decide.
I vaguely feel that what we should do is
1) participate in the nomination process (IF we have a name to
propose and IF it is not in the current list - if list there is...
so first thing would be to figure out where the nomination list
would actually be...)
2) not participate in the vote (because it is unclear who our
membership is and it is likely many of us are in other groups)
What about starting by polling our "members" on a wiki page about
how they feel about the offline group actually trying to vote for
someone ?
Florence
SJ
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:39 AM Federico Leva (Nemo)
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for raising the point.
Florence Devouard, 27/02/19 14:17:
> Yet... an WMF affiliate has some obligations... so how
should we deal
> with that in the least time-consuming, least-bureaucratic,
> least-expensive way, yet playing our role in representing,
recruting and
> promoting offline in the mouvement ?
From my point of view as a supporter of offline projects,
the ideal
solution is that all affiliates agree that only incorporated
entities
will have a formal vote (whatever its weight) in the final
phase of the
selection of 2 board seats, to avoid creating new unwanted
work about
internal governance.
Alternatively, a simple method might be to decide that all
user groups
will have a discussion/vote on a certain wiki page where all
their
members can join (Meta-Wiki may be enough if it can be
public), so that
it's easy to identify unwanted patterns. (And establish a
quorum or
whatever other criteria is decided.)
Federico
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