Hello Samuel,
I have always trusted the Wikipedia community.
I think it all comes from there:
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2014/09/12/emmanuel-engelhart-inventor-of-kiwix/
The editing battle is between Renaud Gaudin, Emmanuel Engelhart and me
:)
https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion:Kiwix&action=history
I don't understand why they dispute the paternity of Fabien Coulon from
Linterweb, and I don't want to know why.
And when I asked the question to the Kiwix Team I was sent back to them,
so I'm going around in circles.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwix
"En un principio el proyecto era mantenido por una empresa llamada
Linterweb. Sin embargo, Linterweb dejó de colaborar con Kiwix por
intereses comerciales (no aceptó que el formato de compresión fuese de
código abierto)3 Actualmente, muchos desarrolladores están colaborando
activamente en el desarrollo de Kiwix"
Nice to read you,
Pascal
Le 2024-12-08 21:43, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Hello Pascal, nice to see you posting here. Can you link to the French
or Spanish Wikipedia discussions/edit conflicts?
I doubt anyone was trying to distort the english wp article, just a
question of what sources they found when researching. Tha is for
posting links; many people on this list have been involved with offline
tools since the days of the interweb and can help update.
Grateful to everyone who has contributed to Kiwix over the years, which
I have used on countless occasions.
Cheers, SJ
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Sun, Dec 8, 2024, 5:43 AM Pascal Martin <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello,
Jim Wales aka Jimbo had the idea to make an encyclopedia, but the
first version of MediaWiki is attributed to Magnus Manke.
Emmanuel Engelhart aka Kelson had the idea to make Kiwix, but the
first version of Kiwix was made by Fabien Coulon for Linterweb.
In opensource software, it is customary to attribute authorship to the
coders of the first functional version of a software who made these
sources public.
This article don't mention Renaud or Emmanuel, but only Linterweb as
designer on April 26, 2007 :
https://web.archive.org/web/20070429040001/http://www.01net.com/editorial/347463/encyclopedie/une-version-francaise-de-wikipedia-bientot-en-dvd/
I don't deny the participation of Emmanuel Engelhart on the mirror
aspect at the beginning of the project, as he says on the first
message on the list.
"Hello everyone, just a quick email to introduce the people involved
in kiwix. So far: Nytux (Fabien), he is the one who coded everything,
so he is the one to ask questions about the search engine and the
rest. He is an employee of Linterweb Pm27 (Pascal), he is the boss of
Fabien and Linterweb, he is the treasurer. I had the idea for the
project, I am a volunteer for Wikimedia France and I am responsible
for dumps for Wikipedia selections. There you go. Emmanuel"
https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/mailman/kiwix-developer/?limit=100&viewmonth=200706
Don't ask me why, but sourceforge didn't keep the branches, I don't
know why but the waybackmachine kept some bits.
Fabien Coulon aka Nytux aka Coulonito made the first commits on this
branch of Kiwix.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090803143858/http://sourceforge.net/users/coulonito
This screenshot is the first appearance of Kiwix, posted by Emmanuel
Engelhart, it clearly says developed by Linterweb, thus recognizing
our contributions at the time :
https://web.archive.org/web/20070409082337/http://www.kiwix.org/index.php/Image:Ocean_blue_skin_example.jpg
Fabien Coulon had admin's rights from the beginning of the project:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070306091713/http://sourceforge.net/projects/kiwix/
The merger between the two projects took place only in 2008.
In 2008 it was Guillaume Duhamel aka Yabause for Linterweb who also
worked on it, he created the common branch with moulinkiwi.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080915100426/http://kiwix.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/kiwix/
https://www.clubic.com/actualite-243284-kiwix-wikipedia-cle-usb.html
Once again we only talk about Linterweb as a designer on this version.
As Guillaume points out, the only binaries for which we have not
published the code were made for Okawix, in no case has Linterweb
published binaries for Kiwix:
https://linuxfr.org/nodes/96954/comments/1420846
I am surprised to don't find the mention of the linterweb employees's
contribution on the Kiwix articles on Wikipedia in in english.
Like on the Hispanic article that the disagreement would be about a
disagreement on the sources. I broke the partnership following the ban
on exploiting for commercial use of the Kiwix project, as the external
source says.
I am not trying to know who carried these rumors but that someone
brings me the contributions of the creators' code.
Is there any public proof of the contribution of the code to the first
version of Kiwix that is attributed to Emmanuel and Renaud?
Sorry to come back to a 15 year old story, but the distortions on
Wikipedia articles led to an editing conflict on the French Kiwix
article, considering Renaud Gaudin and Emmanuel Engelhart as the
creator of Kiwix.
But all the links prove that Kiwix was created by Fabien Coulon for
Linterweb.
For Linterweb,
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