Cool - thanks people! It just seams like a WAY obvious thing to me - 
especially since you can get USB modems - ie, a rack of modems that all
talk
thru a single USB port. Great for servers.

Its just a pity that win2K is looking so DAMN GOOD. I had a play with B3
RC0
when it came out, and its NICE (OK, so I have a fairly heafty system).
Except for compatability - tho everything (except installing Delphi 4)
worked fine (Delphi 4 itself works fine - and I'm told that 4.02's
installer works with it - installshield screw up)

So, all in all, it looks nice. the last beta I played with is MORE
stable than 98 is by a long shot, and its a little more so than NT4.

Pity it'll take then another 12 months to get it out the door.

thanks for all your help. I guess I'm going to have to use serial comms
:(

Nic.


Max Renshaw-Fox wrote:
> 
> >From the Microsoft site:
> 
> DDK
> Windows 98 DDK
> Windows NT. 5.0 Beta 2 DDK
> There is no DDK support for USB under earlier versions of Microsoft
> operating systems.
> 
> This is what I call a W2K problem - there are a number of other
> technologies, new versions of MS apps etc that Microsoft won't be supporting
> on anything less than Win2K because they rely on active directory or other
> technologies that won't be retrofitted to NT4 - after all they've got to
> keep the upgrade cycle going if BillG is to be the greatest philanthropist
> of the 20th century.
> 
> Max
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Maurice Butler
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 1999 10:22
> To: Multiple recipients of list offtopic
> Subject: RE: [DUG-OFFTOPIC]: ... WAY off topic (IMAP and USB)
> 
> My aplogies the dealer I talked to said it would, when I checked the HP
> site for the driver specs it said, as you had already found out, that NT
> does not.
> the http://www.usb.org/ has a tool to see if your system is compliant to
> the usb standard by checking operating system, hardware then driver. This
> tool reports for NT4 installed you need to wait for NT5. This site also has
> all the hardware spec's for the usb ports. But the chances are that in
> typical MS fashion there is not a clean interface for the API.
> (means I will now have to get a scsii card with the scanner)
> Maurice
> 
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> I don't know which HP you are referring to but it isn' the 4100C (no NT
> driver available!). Which model is it?
> ============================================
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Maurice Butler
> > Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 1999 13:49
> > To: Multiple recipients of list offtopic
> > Subject: RE: [DUG-OFFTOPIC]: ... WAY off topic (IMAP and USB)
> >
> >
> > HP sell a scanner with USB and NT support so it can be done (I have been
> > looking at purchasing one). It is just a case of finding which mirror in
> > the MS hall of mirrors the information hides behind. To be honset it is
> > proberly so poorly documented HP had to reinvent it.
> >
> > Maurice
> >
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> >
> > Hi people,
> >
> > I dont think it gets much more offtopic than this:
> >
> > 1) Anyone know of a way to get a USB port working under NT4? MS don't
> > seam to
> > support it :( (I dont want to buy an external card, as I'd like to use
> > my laptop,
> > which has it onboard). Support.microsoft.com says "nope, not under NT.
> > But you do it like this under 98....". <sigh>
> >
> > Also, how do you talk to a USB port? Is it just another serial port,
> > albeit faster?
> >
> > 2) anyone know of a good (or with-source) IMAP4 component. I've looked
> > briefly at IMS, but I dont like it much. Might have to write my own
> > tho....
> >
> > Ta!
> >
> > Nic.
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