Re: RE: [DUG-OFFTOPIC]: Choosing a web design tool

[Tracey Maule]

Im glad im not the only one that gave up on websnap   ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan, Samuel To: Multiple recipients of list offtopic Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: RE: RE: [DUG-OFFTOPIC]: Choosing a web design tool WebSnap = ha ha ha ha ha. We have used it quite extensively, and found it far more work than say ASP. Basically, it has some nice stuff, but once you want a more complex site than the demos it is not really worth the effort. Mind you, we may not have used it right, and maybe had we been more sensible it might have been really easy. Only we found it not worth the effort.     -----Original Message----- From: James Sugrue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2003 8:18 a.m. To: Multiple recipients of list offtopic Subject: RE: [DUG-OFFTOPIC]: Choosing a web design tool I, like Jeremy, have tried most of the products out there at one time or another. My advice would be to spend the money on a couple of good books on HTML and either ASP, ASP.NET or PHP and do things by hand in a good text editor, like UltraEdit.   I actually wrote a fully WYSIWYG editor a while back in Delphi, and found I use almost exclusively the editor side, rather than the layout/design side.   I have never used WebSnap in Delphi, but I have heard good things, and would be interested to hear what someone who has thinks of it.   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2003 7:18 am To: Multiple recipients of list offtopic Subject: [DUG-OFFTOPIC]: Choosing a web design tool   Hi all   I'm brand new to web design and want to hit the ground running with an advanced toolset. I would like to use a product that enables a complete novice like myself, to put together a basic web site easily, yet has the power & flexibility that an experienced web developer would want. The idea is, once I get familiar with things and then want to get more fancy and dig deeper, the toolset I'm using needs to already have all the advanced features - so that I can grow into it. So the toolset needs to cover the A to Z of website design (with nothing left out).   At the moment, I just want to create a personal website, but then I want to move on to creating a commercial website for a business I want to create.   I understand Delphi 7 has some good web stuff? And I've just been reading a little about Delphi Web Scripting. Ideally I'd like to use something within Delphi, but I'm not opposed to something completely different. A colleague uses Dream Weaver, but I don't know much about it. If I could find a product that is seamless that would be great - i.e. where I don't need to learn a bit of html, _javascript_, some other script, asp syntax, etc. to tie it all together (maybe that's a pipe dream?)   I'm happy if the product is open source, or costs up to $400. I can't afford to spend 1000's!   Any suggestions of products to check out or things I should know?   P.S. I also want to look at whether I get my ISP to host, or use my own PC as the Web server, as I have Jet Start. What are the pros & cons of each?   Thanks for your thoughts. Dave Jollie Developer, TOWER NZ IT (: 09 368 4259 Ê: 09 306 6801 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .: 46 Parnell Rd, Parnell, Auckland   --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 5/06/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 5/06/2003