NO until its paid for it leads a charmed protected life! Ughrrr.

On 06/11/2007, Jeremy Coulter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>    I thought you were going to say you got a roster for dinner at one
> point in that story :-)
> The lady at the other hotel sounds like some of the people who run shops
> at the SimLim  building in Singapore. Anyone who has been to singapore and
> been to SimLim will know what I am talking about !! :-)
>
>
>
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Paul A Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List" <offtopic@delphi.org.nz>
> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:08:49 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DUG-Offtopic] what are your thoughts about this?
>
> Hi,
>
> I was recently staying in a small hotel in Central America, in a town
> where just before dawn, canons and fireworkss wold be let off in the
> neighbourhood, and then local church bells would relentlessly peel, and a
> nearby rooster would take his perch and start crowing.
>
> The hotel owners, a lovely couple, asked, was the rooster a bother, and I
> suppose that as they couldn't do anything about the canon, the firecrackers
> and the church bells, they didn't mention them.
>
> I said yes the rooster did go on a lot.
> They then informed me that a neighbouring hotel had paid for previous
> roosters to be removed, but that the lady who had owned them all, had made a
> bit of a business of having a rooster for hotels to pay for her to get rid
> of, and it was now a real business for her, and so no one was paying for
> the latest rooster  to be removed any more.
>
> So perhaps you just have to  decide whether the rooster is an accident
> which you just have to put up with at your own expense, or whether its a
> business that you'll be paying to have go away all the time if you don't
> come to a long term understanding!
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 05/11/2007, Neven MacEwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> > For what it is worth I wouldn't pay for the simple reason that the fix
> > was for a problem with their chosen platform and your data
> > which I assume was not beyond the specs of their program, I cannot see
> > why they didn't integrate the fix into the core product
> >
> > Pay for the fix but insist they put a disclaimer on the specs of the
> > product "Searches data unless you get to much data (amount unknown) in
> > which case it fails"
> >
> > Neven
> > > Ok, well, I guess I am partly right and partly wrong.
> > > I can actually see both side of the coin, I just know form my onw
> > > position how i would expect "myself" or rather "my company" to react
> > > in this situation, so maybe emotion is clouding my thoughts...hehehehe
> > >
> > > Anyway, Thansk for the feed back all.
> > >
> > > Jeremy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     -----Original Message-----
> > >     From: Alister Christie <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List
> > >     < offtopic@delphi.org.nz>
> > >     Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:45:29 +1300
> > >     Subject: Re: [DUG-Offtopic] what are your thoughts about this?
> > >
> > >     After reading some of the posts and comments I have to say that
> > I'm
> > >     pretty divided.
> > >
> > >     My question would be does this "fix" benefit anyone but you?
> > >
> > >     If it is a fix that they can roll out to other customers - which
> > they
> > >     may do without you knowing, then they should probably cover the
> > >     cost of
> > >     the fix.  However if the only person to benefit is you then it is
> > >     a bit
> > >     harsh to believe that they are responsible, unless the
> > purposefully
> > >     broke your "fix" knowing that you'd have to pay for the patch.
> > >
> > >     It might be a good time to examine your service contract in
> > detail.
> > >
> > >     Alister Christie
> > >     Computers for People
> > >     Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
> > >     http://www.salespartner.co.nz
> > >     PO Box 13085
> > >     Johnsonville
> > >     Wellington
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     Jeremy Coulter wrote:
> > >     > Hi All.
> > >     >
> > >     > We have a situation here at my day job, where we use a 3rd party
> > >     > vendor for our CMS product.
> > >     > We stumbled onto a problem some time back with the search
> > >     > functionality, where Coldfusion'd (which the CMS is based on)
> > >     search
> > >     > basically threw a fit and died because our site was so big.
> > >     > The vendor then wrote a fix for us, and since it was neither our
> >
> > >     fault
> > >     > nor theirs, we agreed to pay for fix from them for their product
> > at
> > >     > cost...fair enough, Coldfusion was the real problem.
> > >     >
> > >     > Anyway, we have recently upgraded to the latest version of their
> >
> > >     > product, and now the custom search code does not work, and they
> > >     waht
> > >     > to charge us for fixing the problem.
> > >     >
> > >     > Now, to my mind, when I do say a custom report and I change
> > >     something
> > >     > in the exe and release a new version, and it breaks their custom
> > >     > report, its up to ME to fix it, and not for the customer to be
> > >     charged
> > >     > for it.
> > >     >
> > >     > So in the ace with our CMS vendor, what doe people think? Am I
> > >     right
> > >     > in thinking that it should not cost us anything because "they"
> > >     > essentually broke it and never tested our custom search etc. ?
> > >     > OR should we pay?
> > >     >
> > >     > Jeremy
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
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