On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:35, Martin Bochnig wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Simon Phipps <webmink at sun.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:48, Ben Rockwood wrote:
>>
>>> Rather than be drawn into individual issues with the current draft
>>> beyond what I already provided (my replies would just echo my  
>>> previous
>>> statements), I shall focus on the big issues.
>>
>> That's a shame as that won't get the document improved.
>>
>> S.
>
>
> It would be a pity, I agree. Nevertheless, I think Ben (and others)
> has/have already provided way enough precise aspects and also details
> to permit somebody with the honest intention of desiring to change the
> draft a bit into the "right" direction, to do just that.

Actually, no. The volunteers who worked on the draft did so in the  
open, for months, to the best of their ability, and that was the time  
when general comments would have been welcome (along with specific  
work as well, of course). What's needed now is not general comments  
but specific, incremental activity to improve the document before the  
annual election.

>
> Afterwards you (or - that person) could come back and request new
> community grassroots feedback.

I don't have enough to go on from Ben's comments to be able to make  
changes, beyond being aware he doesn't like the draft.

S.


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