John Plocher writes: > Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > I agree that the person who wants the project should do the work. > > So, what happens if/when nobody wants to do the work?
Then it's not worth doing. ;-} > Or when > the work is "the OGB needs someone to do 'foo' for each group"? If the OGB wants it done, and there's no associated project working on it, then I think the OGB will have to gather the resources to make it happen. (Is there an example of this? Having one would probably help clarify the concern.) > If "everyone" can do it, it means that ultimately there is "nobody" > responsible for ensuring that it really gets done. My concern > here is mostly on "where does the buck stop?". That is *exactly* my concern with putting things onto a community group or a single facilitator for a group. Neither of them cares or has any real responsibility, so when project teams come forward to say "please vote to endorse (and instantiate) my project," it often becomes a problem. Sometimes, the project team leader realizes that he has to go pester the community leaders personally until he finds one who is sympathetic or bored enough to do the work required. Otherwise, it just doesn't happen, and he goes away frustrated. > The constitution defines a facilitator role. I don't mind if we rename it > to leader, but the role is still there - as is the list of tasks that need > to be addressed by the person/people in that role. > > A person who is motivated to do the tasks should be given the role; having > the role enables both the ability to perform those tasks and the > responsibility > to do them. I think we're violently agreeing on this. The problem is that some people are reading "role" to mean "assigned person who is always performing exactly this function, sort of like a group secretary, rather than a transient state that someone assumes when he sees the need or wants to do it." We don't have staff positions for the Community Groups. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking <james.d.carlson at sun.com> Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677
