Jim Grisanzio wrote: > It's been about 10 days since we voted to create this committee. Do we > have a committee set to go?
Of those nominated, JohnS has said yes, AlanB has effectively said no, StephenH and ShawnW have not responded, and the OGB members (Alan, Jim, Glenn, JBeck and myself) have all said yes (though JBeck is on Jury Duty and out of the loop) So, no we don't have a committee - we have an OGB discussion with one non-OGB participant and a few onlookers. > How are we moving forward? I think we ought > to meet via phone at least once next week. We'll need to discuss all the > proposed plans -- I count about four so far. Lets discuss the high level differences of the plans Monday - there are such extreme differences from one to the other that IMO it is imperative to ensure the board is behind (or not) the various structures being proposed. The output of that meeting should help clarify things. > I disagree with the notion of restructuring from the perspective of > reducing the number of current CGs. I also disagree with the notion of > adding a few new groups on top of the current set of CGs just so the OGB > has a small set of groups to interact with. I know you disagree. The sense of the board meeting 2 weeks ago was different, though, and I am trying to stay aligned with that direction. I don't disagree with your ideas - in fact, I think they have great potential - which is why I feel we need to resync/reset things at Monday's OGB meeting. > The OGB will not be interacting with those top level Groups, My fear is that we are destroying the OpenSolaris Community in favor of dozens to hundreds of smaller silos. Where is the umbrella that makes us a whole? Where is the shared vision, the ecosystem, the unified <whatever>? Isn't that what governance and the OGB were created to manage? > The practice we have in the OpenSolaris community or inside Sun? Both. They are (today) inseparable. It makes no sense to me to spend 99% of our effort doing things the "internal Sun way" and then do things completely different in the community. >> The wiki page at >> http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php?title=OGB_2008/010 > > Can we decide on a single communications mechanism for this? I thought we did. Start the discussion in the bug database, roll it out into the 2008/010 wiki, discuss and iterate the wiki on list, and then bring it to the board. Blogs and counter-proposals-in-email are not part of the process we agreed to use, though they have been useful. >> a concrete proposal for the OGB's July 21 meeting in a week. > > How about the 28th? I agree - we still have a lot of work to do. We don't know whether or not the current webapp will support the various alternatives being discussed (or when the new webapp that will will be completely deployed), and we haven't yet started discussing the communication plans and rollout logistics... -John
