On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 12:45:26PM -0700, John Falkenthal wrote: > I agree that Ldoms would fit well as a project in a virtualization > community. If we are ever going to pull together a "story" for Sun > having a unified virtualization strategy its got to start in places like > this. One problem is that I didn't see any real commitment of > creating such a community and reorganizing the projects under it. > Steven, is this going to happen and if so when?
Well, my question isn't about helping Sun come up with messaging or strategy - I certainly want that to happen, but this isn't the place for it. In many ways, of course, the same inputs go into both how an engineering community governs itself and how the technical output of that community is marketed to customers, but we're really only concerned with the former here. The kind of thing I'm trying to understand here is whether the principals in the extant and proposed Community Groups believe that (a) they're solving the same basic problems using similar tools, and can benefit from working together, managing their projects together, integrating their work more closely, and thinking about the problems together, or (b) they believe they're taking completely different directions and competing with one another or even addressing separate and non-overlapping problem spaces, or would be otherwise unable to reach consensus on anything important. The lesson we learned from our initial attempt at combining Groups is that logical boundaries are often the wrong ones; the Core Contributors' desire for independence or cooperation is often the key determinant. At the same time, I'm loathe to go creating hundreds of Community Groups simply because people who could and should be working together and creating more integrated and coherent solutions can't or won't be bothered to look beyond the charters given to their team by their employer. I've yet to see anything here that leads me to either conclusion on this particular issue. My personal bias is to deny formation of new Groups when I have doubts. Other board members may well feel differently, of course. -- Keith M Wesolowski "Sir, we're surrounded!" FishWorks "Excellent; we can attack in any direction!"
