Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> Alan Burlison wrote:
>> Glynn Foster wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Garrett. If someone is willing to step up, volunteer 
>>> their time, and moderate a list so that auto-reject can be turned 
>>> off, then I think we should be willing to accommodate that from an 
>>> infrastructure point of view. Quite how that works if there's any 
>>> politics involved, I don't know. Perhaps Alan might be able to 
>>> generate some stats on who the poor list administrators are in terms 
>>> of when they last logged in?
>>
>> I believe this is now being sorted, but just a note about the 
>> auto-reject setting: that's something that is done by the list owners, 
>> the lists are not set up by default that way.  And as I said before, 
>> if the owners don't get to the messages we are moderating the lists 
>> anyway, so there shouldn't be a problem with mails sitting in queues 
>> for a long time.
>>
> 
> I understand this, thank you.  In my opinion, either this option should 
> (auto reject) should not be available to list owners, or they should be 
> strongly discouraged from doing so (perhaps with rationale included.)
> 
> The exceptional cases might be lists that are strictly intended for 
> conversations between small numbers of folks and not intended to be 
> "open".  (For example, the list for communications between OGB members.)
> 
> I believe so strongly in this that I think there should be an official 
> policy about it -- one that would be blessed by the OGB.

Garrett, while I understand your frustrations with list moderations, if 
list owners don't want to have to individual moderate messages, it is 
their right to choose to auto-reject or discard them as the list is 
their responsibility.

Trying to force a policy like this will likely just end up with email 
sitting in a queue where it waits forever to be moderated.

For the record, moderation doesn't bother me, and so I do it, but I 
don't expect others to do so if they don't want to; this is a 
meritocracy after all...

Cheers,
-- 
Shawn Walker

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