On 29-Jan-08, at 8:39 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 9:51 PM, John Sonnenschein > <johnsonnenschein at gmail.com> wrote: >> Shawn. >> >> Some of us came to OpenSolaris because we wanted an open-source >> operating system that still cared about quality, rather than the >> "weekend hack-fest" that the other F/LOSS operating systems have >> become. > > I did too, believe it or not. > > However, room for both worlds has to be present.
And it is. If you want quality, there's solaris. If you want poorly thought out code, there's Linux. > As I said before, Sun's rules should be applied to what Sun wants to > do. > > The community should be the one to decide the rules for what they do. I agree, and from what I hear from the community, with the exception of a small number of people who would prefer that we become just another linux distro, people still want ARC. There's a reason the ON community is the least open, and that's probably in large part due to the responsible engineers distrust for the vocal desktop people's calls for what amounts to the dissolution of ARC and other quality control measures. >> Abandoning ARC for all but the "official Sun Value-Added" Solaris >> would be the greatest tragedy in computing since AT&T sold the rights >> to UNIX. > > I think that's exaggerating a bit. I disagree >> There are plenty of open-source operating systems where weekend >> hackers can dump their bad code. I'd prefer if Solaris remained the >> bastion of quality in a sea of mediocrity. > > Solaris can remain that bastion. OpenSolaris, however, needs to be > free to be what the community wants it to be. The community at large, or the "desktop is the primary platform" community ? > Let's face it; Solaris was fading away; then OpenSolaris happened. Nonsense. Solaris is underrepresented in the $10/month webhosting market. Large shops still prefer it. > The processes of the last twenty or thirty years didn't allow Sun to > hold its market position, so why continue to insist on them? see above. there's a reason IRIX is dead and Solaris lives. > Not all of those processes should die; I wholeheartedly believe in > some of them under the right circumstances. > > However, the community must be free to reach its own goals and achieve > its own measure of success.
