Hi Everyone, I've been trying to read through my email today and trying to sift through the apparent mess we're now in. Project Indiana has its place in the community and we will all be able to benefit from it as time passes. However, I do agree that the way in which it has been labeled and presented on the home page is a bit misleading and may draw attention away from the Solaris Express *flavors*, or worse cause confusion for new people coming to our community. Obviously, in the future components from it will replace the old Solaris installer, pkg/patch management, etc. But I think we need to be clear about the differences in the distributions. Right now, if someone were to come to the OpenSolaris site, with an interest to install OpenSolaris on a SPARC box, they may get mis-directed by the home page. They may end up looking at the "OpenSolaris Developer Preview" and think "Gee, I can't install OpenSolaris on a SPARC box?". Definitely not the kind of confusion we should be be causing on the home page.
Ideally, the primary distribution should include support for both platforms, have all the consolidated components, developer tools, etc. Perhaps even a tool to install the latest bits from projects that have not integrated with the Nevada stream yet? The point being, that the primary distribution should showcase a *complete* package. I'm sure the hope of Project Indiana is to achieve this at some point in the future, but for now it's a preview of a *project* and not the sum of the Nevada build. At this time, Solaris Express fills this need. I understand that there are components in it that are not open sourced and that it may not showcase the most bleeding edge projects, but it does serve a purpose as a starting point. Having a clear and consistent message is important for the community and ultimately for Sun. The fact that I had over a thousand emails from today alone shows this caused confusion, emotional out bursts, and some disenfranchisement. I know we're all invested in the community and want it to be successful. I'd like to see everyone reach some common ground and resolve this issue to prevent further melt-down. As such, I think the first step is to clear up the confusion on the home page. Then relabel the "OpenSolaris Developer Preview" to something like "Project Indiana Developer Preview". Lastly, have an announcement for it on the home page. Then begins the hard part, getting everyone to come together and talk it out. It may make sense to get people into IRC or perhaps even setup a large conf call. It may be a pain to setup and organize such a discussion, but it would probably be more beneficial than letting the email insanity continue. Just my thoughts on this. I hope I have not offended anyone or caused further confusion. I'm just trying to suggest a way for everyone to come back to the table and resolve the issues at hand. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Systems Engineer http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/sysadmin/ http://unixconsole.blogspot.com unixconsole at yahoo.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
