On 12/11/2007, John Plocher <John.Plocher at sun.com> wrote:
> Shawn Walker wrote:
> > I don't think that 100% open source should be a requirement.
>
>
> For a REFERENCE platform, this makes perfect sense - if it isn't
> free and reusable, nobody else could make a distro compatible with
> the reference...

Again, as long as something is *freely redistributable* I think it's
perfectly fine as long as there is no equal equivalent. Wireless
drivers come to mind...

> I expect Indiana to be made up of a/the reference platform + some special
> sauce; furthermore, I expect Sun's version of it to be ref platform
> + the indiana sauce + a bunch of closed stuff (drivers...).
>
> I also expect Schillix (et.al.) to be made up of the reference platform
> + their own special sauce (KDE instead of GNOME...)

I think we're off on to some weird tangent now. Personally, I'm not
interested in a minimalist reference distribution and I don't think it
will really serve a true compatibility purpose without having more
than just the bare minimum.

> > Indiana is pretty darn close though; likely as close as we'll have for
> > a little while.
>
> The things that make Indiana different from SX are a bunch of not-yet-ARC
> reviewed or approved prototypes.  That makes it difficult to commit to them
> as part of a compatibility reference....

Of course; but once Indiana replaces SXCE, which by all accounts it
will, I assume it will have finished ARC, etc. so that will be a moot
point.

> > I disagree with this for the reasons I listed above. Good work and
> > drivers shouldn't be excluded as long as sufficient redistribution
> > rights are available for them. We don't want to handicap ourselves
> > just to be able to claim "100% open source."
>
> We are not talking about "any distro", but rather a specially blessed
> reference.
>
> Your points all apply to those others...

Yes, and that specially blessed reference should include useful bits;
if you exclude the most useful bits, you kind of make it pointless to
have. A reference distro without drivers that no alternative exists
for is doomed to be nothing more than a distro that no one uses
hardly.

-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/

"We don't have enough parallel universes to allow all uses of all
junction types--in the absence of quantum computing the combinatorics
are not in our favor..." --Larry Wall

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