Hey,

Here are the meeting minutes from the call on the 9th November.


Glynn

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OGB Meeting Minutes :: 9th November 2008

OGB Members: Carlson, Coopersmith, Dik, Foster, Lau, Teer, Wesolowski
Others: John Plocher, John Beck, Ian Murdock, Bill Franklin, Al Hopper,
        Shawn Walker, Ben Rockwood, Bonnie Corwin, David Comay


1) Trademark Usage & Distribution Nomenclature

   This was continued discussion from the previous call on the 7th
   November 2007.

   Franklin sent through a response after a number of discussions
   with executives from Sun. He commented that after the previous
   meeting, there was no clear sign of finalized wording on the draft
   and thus thought that a vote was still a little premature without
   a certain amount of time to talk it through with the community. He
   also commented that Sun was actively working on a set of trademark
   guidelines and hopes to be able to present a draft on or before
   15th December. Franklin talked to the director of trademark law at
   Sun, Tiki Dare, and she has offered to have a meeting to discuss
   this and present the various uses of trademarks in the open and
   Sun's involvement with this.

   Wesolowski sympathizes with the need for additional time to discuss
   things with the community, and wondered if Franklin was able to
   offer a show of good faith in exchange for agreement that the community
   will spend more time on the discussion before general consensus is
   reached. Franklin commented that one of the things he could do
   immediately was revert the home page to that prior to its recent
   change, so that discussion could kick off on advocacy-discuss about what
   content should appear there.

   Wesolowski commented that in light of Franklin's offer, he would like to
   withdraw the pending motion. Carlson seconded. Lau asked for a quick
   clarification of whether the gesture also included updating any of the
   branding content within the binary distribution itself, or was it
   strictly limited to website content. Franklin replied that he could change
   the website immediately, but couldn't change the binary distribution as
   quickly. He commented that there wasn't a proposed name to change it to,
   but thought that it would be reasonable to start discussion on this
   separately.

   Carlson, Coopersmith, Dik, Foster, Lau, Teer and Wesolowski approved
   to withdraw the motion.

   ACTION: Franklin to organize to revert the home page back to the original
           content on the 30th October 2007.

   Teer asked whether a short statement explaining what had occurred as a
   means to congratulate Sun on wanting to solve this expeditiously.
   Wesolowski commented that he felt that the minutes would suffice, but
   agreed that it was an important point. The OGB would like to thank Sun
   and Bill Franklin for being responsive and approachable during this
   discussion.

   Plocher asked if Tiki could join trademark-policy-dev and jumpstart
   the discussion as soon as possible, rather than wait for a conference
   call on this. Franklin thought she was traveling until December, but
   agreed to asked her, and commented that she should be pretty well up
   to date on the current state of the discussions.

   ACTION: Franklin to invite Tiki to start discussion the guidelines on
           trademark-policy-dev.

   Hopper commented that he was very impressed with Franklin's openness
   and willingness to achieve resolution on the previous call, and that
   he wished he had been involved on the public mailing lists earlier.
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