Alan DuBoff wrote:
> On Fri, 4 May 2007, Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
>> Such a system would look nothing like the one we seem to
>> be moving towards - one in which the number of consolidations remains
>> relatively small (a dozen or fewer) with architecturally meaningful
>> boundaries and centralised management.
> 
> Hmmm...seems that AlanC mentioned the communities being responsible for 
> looking over their stuff, so that it would allow each of them to demand 
> whatever they want in regards to a putback for instance. You imply 
> different possibly...Maybe I misunderstood him.

Not sure which conversation of ours you're remembering, but I never meant
to imply the communities such as Device Drivers would be taking over the
roles currently held by the Consolidation staff/teams.

> But this means that decisions are being made that much 
> of the community doesn't even know about, such as the OGB delaring the 
> device driver community defunct.

The OGB made no such declaration or decision - it never even discussed it
until after the big e-mail thread in which you got so upset about it.
I merely pointed out that the constitution the entire community voted on
made it so - officially, as soon as the election was certified and the
Constitution put in place, the Device Driver community was "terminated"
for failure to have at least 3 core contributors.   The OGB has not yet
done anything to enforce this though, and as you've seen here, I've
proposed to the OGB we follow the "re-initiate" option of the constitution,
not the option in which we delete it completely.

> I would be curious to know, did 100% of all contributors vote in the OGB 
> election? 

No - 153 of the 268 Core Contributors voted.

>> As Alan pointed out, this is not really correct.  But I'd like to
>> follow your line of thinking to its logical conclusion - please
>> compose a list of Groups and a mapping from each one to a
>> consolidation.
> 
> Better yet, if you could let me know how having a tarball thrown in the 
> community really makes it a part of opensolaris? My take is BFD, just 
> because some package is on opensolaris doesn't make it a part of it.

So what does it take to make it a part of OpenSolaris to you?   There's
a lot more done by the non-ON consolidations than just providing tarballs.

-- 
        -Alan Coopersmith-           alan.coopersmith at sun.com
         Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

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