Hey,

Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Darren.Reed at Sun.COM wrote:
>> To make it an attractive destination for other companies,
>> besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware.
> 
> And what would we do with that?   (Really - I'm coming from
> a background of the X.Org Foundation, which is having a hard
> time finding ways to spend it's cash - it's not enough to hire
> a stable of full-time developers, so has avoided paying for
> projects so it doesn't fall into the same hole as Debian and
> other projects who paid people but by doing so, had volunteers
> decide they didn't want to work on it without pay, for a net
> loss of people working on the project.   Obviously Sun is
> already paying many OpenSolaris developers, so the dynamics
> here would be different.)

Heh, by all means re-direct some XOrg finances to GNOME.  Here's the stuff that
we spent our money on -

        o Organize GUADEC, annual GNOME users and developer conference
        o Organize Boston GNOME Summit, focused contributor meet
        o Funding for contributors to attend conferences or other related
          sessions
        o Directors insurance
        o Bank charges and postage
        o Trademark applications or other administrative items
        o GNOME Event box - box with basic computer and monitor, tshirts and
          posters that get sent to various conferences for people at the
          booths to use
        o GNOME user group activities
        o Float for GNOME related swag, so that user groups can create tshirts
          and then sell them at a profit without being out of pocket for
          the initial cost
        o GNOME employees - currently administrator, but hopefully soon a
          business development role

[we don't have a hard time spending money...]

>> Isn't anyone in the least bit interested seeing OpenSolaris
>> actually be able to employ people or pay for things itself
>> rather than depend on the good will of Sun to do it all?
> 
> You really see enough people or companies donating the sum
> required to hire anyone?  I can't see $100,000+ falling into
> our lap anytime soon.

I agree, we're not likely to see donations like this soon, though arguably Sun
donates many, many more dollars right now. If we did eventually get to the level
of a Foundation (and I don't believe for a second we're ready for that yet), we
could set up an Advisory Board body, which typically has a cost associated
membership.


Glynn

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