On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> 
> You're version of open source and community seems to be one that is driven
> by, and controlled by, a large corporate entity.
> 
> By now, after some five years of the OpenSolaris project, we the members
> of the community that existed long before Sun or Oracle decided it was a
> good marketing tool, should be able to just use the source and build a
> distro from scratch.

I've been involved with opensource for a very long time and I'm aware of the 
ambiguity that is the word 'community' and how it can be used at will as both 
carrot and stick. I have no personal version of it.

I distinctly recall the howls of travesty when ActiveState decided to give the 
Perl 'pumpkins', aka gatekeepers, a regular paying job so they could do the job 
without having to lose sleep or family time in addition to their day job. The 
variety of accusations ranged from hostile corporate takeover of perl to 
suggesting that it would be only for windows/pc, that they'd charge for a 
special more functional version, etc. when, as far as I am aware of, none of 
the fears were ever proven to be correct.

> What we have is confusion. Lack of information.
> A powerless and largely useless OGB.

Well, that's not due to 'fear and silence' from those of us with oracle.com 
addresses. As I said, please do contact the right channels to try and obtain 
the information you're looking for and do try to remember that we are not the 
enemy. 

e.
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