AlanC asked what the OGB has been doing, since the minutes weren't being posted to ogb-discuss (oops!). Here's the halftime reprise:
http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_04_01_OGB_Agenda Board elected, no meeting held http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_04_26_OGB_Agenda Meeting called to order at 19:30 UTC. Those present: * John Plocher * Neale Ferguson * Simon Phipps * Peter Tribble * Joerg Schilling Motion: Neale Ferguson to fill vacancy on OGB based on being the next highest receiver of votes. Moved by Simon Phipps, seconded by John Plocher. Carried. Election of Officers * John Plocher for Chairman. * Joerg Schilling for Vice Chairman. * Neale Ferguson for Secretary. Moved by Simon Phipps, seconded by Peter Tribble. Election called and carried. John Plocher distributed the tweet and mailman passwords to the group. Simon Phipps – propose community discussion on the role and future of the OGB. Next meeting – aiming for Monday or Tuesday based on review referred to above. *Motion:* To adjourn the meeting. Proposed by Joerg Schilling, seconded by Peter Tribble. *Carried*. Meeting closed at 20:06 UTC. http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_05_03_OGB_Agenda Simon and Moinak not present OGB and OpenSolaris Futures discussion - Dennis described his call with the CTO of HP to discuss OpenSolaris and HP. He asked whether it would be appropriate to contact Oracle executives to discuss their OpenSolaris directions. *Action*: By next week Dennis to provide a summary of call attempt(s). - The discussion then proceeded to deal with concerns over the future of the developer community and Oracle's attitude towards it. Simon's suggestion to poll the community about its priorities was raised as a useful starting point to progress this discussion and to determine what the OGB should be focusing on. - Dennis raised the point that it has been over 5 years since the pilot (September 13, 2004 ) and thus far it is unclear how a community member would be able to build an Opensolaris(tm) distro. Dennis sees this as a barrier for an open source project where the community members wait for a *reference build* from a corporation as opposed to having the general populace being able to simply build it themselves and use it everywhere. He acknowledged the community depends on the closed binaries being built for us but that should not a barrier to building a distribution *easily*. Policy review and familiarization http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_05_10_OGB_Agenda All present! - Dennis has attempted to talk with Oracle executives, he usually ends up being directed to Sales people. When direct questions are asked about Solaris or OpenSolaris there is a point blank answer of dead silence. Dennis had a *full and frank* conversation with Dan Roberts. It was suggested that the other person to contact within Oracle would be Vincent Murphy. - Joerg sent mail to Dave Stewart (digitalDave of Intel) asking why his videos on Intel/Solaris collaboration are no longer being sent, he said someone else had taken over the relationship (Bob Kasten). - Need to reach out to Roland Mainz to discuss the "broo-ha-ha" over the ksh93 issues that have been raised. The question was raised asking if the OGB should weigh into the matter and issue some type of public statement. - John asked Simon how to get the Community Outreach conversation going. Simon suggested that the OGB list be used to raise the initial questions. *Action*: Simon to begin the conversation on OGB mailing list. - Congratulations to Simon Phipps on his new position - OpenSSO and OpenESB live on. - Dennis raised his concern over the ability of new people to join the OpenSolaris project and be able to download/build/install without traps/tricks etc. After 5 years this process should be straightforward enough such that a developer with reasonable skills would be able to get something going very quickly. http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_05_17_OGB_Agenda Peter out - Dennis is still working on making some progress with the corporate Oracle contacts. - ksh - feedback from community indicates there's no problem. Our action of reaching out and asking was the appropriate response. - Dennis proposed getting the community to help build a reference distribution. 5/24 - no quorum, no meeting http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_06_07_OGB_Agenda Moinak, Peter, Dennis out - report on distro community conversation - Suggested that an open letter to Oracle be drafted to try and get any feedback from them on the future of OpenSolaris and the role of the OGB http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_06_14_OGB_Agenda Peter, Simon, Dennis out - Still unable to get calls returned from Oracle folks who are responsible for OpenSolaris. - It is still not possible to divine Oracle's attitude towards a community based approach to OpenSolaris. - John discussed some of the projects that Oracle have been "absorbed" (i.e. made internal). - *Action:* Neale to raise establishment of the user group on the website-discuss mailing list indicating that the OGB approves the proposal. http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_06_21_OGB_Agenda No quorum http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/2010_06_28_OGB_Agenda Dennis, Neale out - Discussion re: future of OGB and Community.... - A motion concerning the OGB's public position will be prepared for discussion and vote at the 7/12 OGB meeting 7/5 Holiday
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