C. Bergström wrote:
> Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
> > Speaking as Managing Director of EveryCity Managed Hosting in the UK,
> I can say that I am fully prepared to commit hardware in the way of
> servers, internet connectivity/bandwidth, zones/xVM guests and
> potentially staff time or sponsorship to the community. It wouldn't
> surprise me if other companies such as Joyent would be interested in
> doing the same -
> >
> PathScale can't give free hosting, but we can commit to supporting the
> C, C++ and Fortran runtimes, compilers and toolchain.  While everyone
> makes lists of things which aren't open source they keep forgetting
> that
> gcc does build, but does not *boot* a new kernel.  We don't currently
> support SPARC hardware, but if anyone is interested to help with that
> on
> a business or contribution level I'm sure can be resolved.
>
> We may also be able to help with some Nvidia graphics driver, but this
> is a closed source problem entirely outside of the current situation.

Hey codestr0m!

A very valid point - I guess from what you're saying, the PathScale
compilers can produce a bootable kernel for x86?

I would imagine the community's first goal would be producing a modest
distribution for x86/x64, utilising whichever compiler makes the most
sense. If the PathScale compiler is up to the task and open source,
then that sounds like it's worth using.

Having spent many an hour fighting with Sun Studio built
Ruby/Python/Perl packages attempting to build 3rd party extensions
that expect gcc, as well as trying to get bleeding edge stuff like
ffmpeg to compile, I can honestly personally wouldn't mind a GCC built
userland. But it may make sense for the core OS components to be
compiled with Pathscale/Sun Studio, then go for a gcc userland, but
again that's just my personal opinion.

One of my main frustrations with OpenSolaris/Solaris has always been
that 3rd party software is hard to come by and so much stuff doesn't
compile without tweaks. If I was heading up a community distribution
I'd be very keen to ensure that the "end user experience" matches what
Linux and BSD users have become accustomed to. I always felt Sun could
have made Solaris/OpenSolaris more palatable by increasing the reach
of SFW and providing more patches to 3rd party projects to get them to
compile on Solaris.
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