Re: [Open_Gaming] Unorthodox D20 modules

[Margaret C Vining]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:49:47 -0800 "Rob Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Maggie, > > As a gamer who has worked in a gaming store I think I can mirror > some > sentiments others on the list may have by saying: > > What planet are you from?     Hi Rob,   The same one you are from.  We all have different perceptions about the world around us.  I assumed it would be safe to share my _past perceptions_ with this list so you all can learn how to market to people who currently  think like I _used_ to.   > > *My point is that many women grow up like I did.  We are taught to > *avoid men who look like most gamers and avoid places that look like > most > *comic stores because if we don't we are going to get raped and > pregnant > *and uneducated and jobless and it will be all our fault. > > Hmmm, a very intelligent and qualified statement. Despite the > obvious social > bias evident in your posting   I can even find some ground to agree > with you > on. However a lot of the gamers ( such as myself ) on this board > might take > this as a personal attack.     They shouln't because I wasn't attacking anyone but myself.  I agree that my _past_ thoughts about gamers were biased and ignorant.  In fact that was the whole point of my letter, so I don't see what you are so upest about.  I shared my thoughts with this list not so I could be attacked for my _past_ faults but so marketers might understand why _some_ women don't go into comic stores.     > > Your statements are akin to saying: > > "All Star Trek fans are maladjusted dorks with no social skills." > > or > > "Members of sororities are elitist snobs with a shallow world view"     Again if you read my letter carefully you will notice that I intended any negative statements about gamers to reflect poorly on my past perceptions... NOT to insult gamers.     > > just not as direct. > > *  But for now the look and customer base of most gaming stores will > make > reaching new customers difficult. > > Ahhh yes, it's all about beauty isn't it? That's the reason I play > games, so > people can percieve me as being cool and fashionable. >   I never said that.  I never said anything close to that.  You are trying to label me as a closed minded person, but that was _exactly_ my point.  I _was_ closed minded.  It _was_ about looks.  And if you want your products to reach people who have not yet learned that "image is nothing" then you have to plan accordingly.   > If you don't want to market your game to gamers, don't.   I never said I didn't want to market to gamers.  But I did say that my products couldn't be sold in most gaming stores.   I will not be using d20 for games.  I don't expect you to understand since you aren't in the know, but don't misquote me.     Good luck in > selling > more than vanity press level amounts of the game though. Certainly > your > perpetration of a stereotype will not endear your efforts to me or > many > others who might be capable of helping.   It was my _past_ perception.  I don't think I could have made that more clear in my letter. I shared it openly with this list and I don't appreciate your attacks.  Don't you think I feel bad enough having spent most of my life clinging to images of  "good looks" = "good soul"?  I met my share of wolves in sheeps clothing and I assure you I paid the price.   I learned my lessons the hard way and I don't need you to reteach me.    And don't threaten me with professional abandonment.  That's just mean and unfounded.  I don't like the person I was any more than you do.  And your obvious lack of tollerance for my past makes you no better than I was.  Except I learned from my mistakes and changed.    Maggie