On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Greg Gliedman wrote:
> But the danger still exists that someone could slap a d20 logo on
> a non-d20 product, undermining the whole experiment by reducing
> consumer confidence in the mark, and get away with it.

        Well, but since there is no quality control, someone can
undermine consumer confidence in the trademark by putting out crap
even if they legally abide by the license.  So this isn't any more
of a problem than normal d20 works, I think.

        There are two other cases: (1) someone could also release a
product labelled d20 which didn't have open content.  Again, I think
this is a non-issue.  Between making only 5% open and product
identity restrictions, a regular d20 work can already be more or
less closed.  (2) someone could release a product labelled d20 which
has character creation and experience rules.  While it might happen,
I consider this more a problem for WotC's legal department than for
the open gaming community.


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On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Steven A. Cook wrote:
> This product was *nothing* but a large box with dice in it, and a d20 logo.
[...]
> to my eyes, it clearly is NOT compliant with the d20 System Trademark
> License. Unless my interpretation of the license is way off.

        Hmmm.  Well, it doesn't have character creation or experience
rules, so it fulfills that requirement.  If it has zero content, then
I suppose that 5% of it is open.  :-)   But they probably didn't print
the OGL, which is a no-no.

- John


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