All of the older D&D stuff would fall under your run of the mill copyright
law.  They cannot copyright Hercules or Zeus, but they can copyright the
stats and descriptive text.  It is pretty simple...if it is in print it is
protected under both national and international copyright laws.  If it is
NOT marked as OGC then it isn't open.  Did I miss anything here?

I would just ignore all the TSR books...

Wasn't there an issue a while back when TSR tried to copyright or trademark
the word "Nazi" when the picked up all the old SSI games? *snort*

Richard Stewart
Sanguine Productions Ltd.

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I'm curious about the place of the older TSR/WoTC products in this Open
Gaming thing. Obviously, they're not going to go to the hassle of
classifying everything specifically as open game content, but can they claim
copyright on, say, the substats used in Player's Option?

Also, the blurry line between game content and product identity is troubling
me. I'm no lawyer, and while I THINK I know where the line falls, I really
can't be sure. And then there are the hundreds of things which have been
adopted by TSR/WoTC from fiction, mythology, real life, etc. Can this sort
of thing be interpreted as Product Identity? For example, many of the
deities used throughout TSR's older work are directly or indirectly copied
from mythology. I'm sure we could still use the names, etc, but what of the
TSR - manufactured mechanics such as bonuses and granted powers of specialty
priesthoods, and so on? Can we begin to include these in publicly available
OGC on the premise that they're now "obsolete", or must we tweak them a
little around the edges, claim the adaptation as your own invention and
release it that way?

As someone who has been playing a homebake, frankenstein system made from a
mix of 1st, 2nd, Player's Option and 3e D&D (among other things), I'm very
interested in the boundaries.

Cheers,

Lewis Stoddart


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