On 30 May 2010 20:15, Mike Caron <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 30/05/2010 4:09 AM, Ralph Versteegen wrote:
>>
>> On 30 May 2010 19:31, Mike Caron<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 30/05/2010 3:19 AM, Ralph Versteegen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 30 May 2010 19:08, Mike Caron<[email protected]>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/05/2010 3:02 AM, Ralph Versteegen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30 May 2010 18:37, Mike Caron<[email protected]>      wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/05/2010 2:33 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> teeemcee
>>>>>>>> 2010-05-29 23:33:46 -0700 (Sat, 29 May 2010)
>>>>>>>> 134
>>>>>>>> Converted Reload.SerializeBin to use BufferedFile instead of stdio
>>>>>>>> FILEs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It now runs nearly 400 times faster on that 64MB test case.
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> U   wip/makereload.bat
>>>>>>>> U   wip/makereload.sh
>>>>>>>> U   wip/reload.bas
>>>>>>>> U   wip/util.bas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You win! No one will ever be able to match 8 commits in the space of
>>>>>>> 17
>>>>>>> seconds!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I check out what you've done, I will comment on something
>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Git is great. I have some HSpeak/script debugger work I could have
>>>>>> finished off and committed in several parts as well, but I'll leave it
>>>>>> for another day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, you lazy git. That explains it. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>> I meant to say somewhere: maybe you want to modify SerializeXML so
>>>>>> that it outputs valid XML (eg, print<>      as<NULL>      and<foo
>>>>>> ="2">
>>>>>>  as
>>>>>> <foo value="2">, and make xml2reload translate back) or whatever, I
>>>>>> left that up to you. I mostly changed it because it was misprinting
>>>>>> slicetrees.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what to do in the face of null nodes, since<>    and<NULL>
>>>>>  are
>>>>> not the same thing. I'm not even sure than a Node with no name is even
>>>>> legal
>>>>> (it's quite possibly undefined).
>>>>
>>>> According to emacs' builtin XML validator (ha) it's not legal in XML,
>>>> but it's certainly legal in RELOAD. (Not sure which you're wondering.)
>>>
>>> I meant in RELOAD. I know it's possible in RELOAD, but I never really
>>> gave
>>> it any thought. And, I see that I optimized this case...
>>>
>>>>> I don't agree with the change to nodes with both values and children.
>>>>> The
>>>>> exact XML representation of that is:
>>>>>
>>>>> <node>
>>>>>    value
>>>>>    <children />
>>>>>    <children />
>>>>>    <children />
>>>>> </node>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that's exact. What is
>>>>
>>>>  <node>
>>>>     value
>>>>     <children />
>>>>     othervalue
>>>>     <children />
>>>>  </node>
>>>
>>> Technically, the structure in XML is:
>>>
>>>   <node>
>>>      <xml:text>value</xml:text>
>>>      <children />
>>>      <xml:text>othervalue</xml:text>
>>>      <children />
>>>   </node>
>>>
>>> If you recall way back, this was the way RELOAD was going to work: A node
>>> could have children, or data, not both.
>>>
>>>> I made that change to avoid confusion between<node
>>>> ="foo"><b>bar</b></node>    and what you get after running
>>>> "<node>foo<b>bar</b></node>" through xml2reload. Although admittedly
>>>> the --debug option I added to reload2xml is enough to distinguish
>>>> those two.
>>>
>>> I'm not really sure what the difference would be, assuming I'm
>>> interpreting
>>> your ="foo" notation correctly.
>>
>> Representing<RELOAD Nodes>, it is:
>>
>> <name="node" content="foo" children={
>>     <name="b" content="bar">
>> }>
>>
>> vs.
>>
>> <name="node" children={
>>     <name="" content="foo">
>>     <name="b" content="bar">
>> }>
>>
>
> Oh, I see. Well, either way, the point is that in XML, the only way to do it
> is by sticking the text in next to the children. I'm not sure what the big
> deal is.
>
> What if we just strip blank nodes from the resulting XML? I mean, if the
> document came from XML originally, it will have blank tags in cases of
> interspersed text (as in your example). So, if you get rid of the blank
> tags, then it will be correct.

That's exactly what is already done. And your original SerializeXML
did that also, but it was a little buggy. That's what I'm going on
about: due to squelching empty tags, those two RELOAD trees would
print the same. But as I said, reload2xml --debug is already a
solution, so remove the <foo ="bar"> formatting as you please.

>>>>> I don't believe in magic attributes or node names, so if I were going
>>>>> to
>>>>> do
>>>>> that, I'd spit them out as:
>>>>>
>>>>> <rootnodewhatever
>>>>> xmlns:RELOAD="http://someurlthatIhaventdecidedyet.com";>
>>>>>  ...
>>>>>  <RELOAD:null />
>>>>> </rootnodewhatever>
>>>>
>>>> You lost me. Would this actually be useful (OK, so I suggested it in
>>>> the first place, so what)
>>>
>>> I meant, stick any magic attributes and nodes in a namespace to avoid
>>> misinterpreting a document which contains those names.
>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure that I want to commit to doing this yet, as I'm working on
>>>>> another big project with my spare time... Maybe soon though. If I
>>>>> become
>>>>> inspired.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> And I was meant to be working on term projects and assignments instead
>>>> of RELOAD.
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