On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM, ken mays <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The desktop for OpenSolaris is not an issue nor major desktop apps. Most of > the major apps were ported and some specs live in SFE. > > You can look at distros like Shillix or even Solaris 11. Do you need Xorg 7.7 > or Xfce 4.10? What specific hardware do you have and what does not work?
Having out dated software will only make people continue to see Illumos as a thing of the past, no matter how amazing our kernel is. > > OpenSolaris distro was always a CORE OS distro in which most bloatware apps > was moved to IPS. So X11 is the main thing to support besides parts of JDS. > ------------------------------ > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 4:38 AM EDT Damian Wojslaw wrote: > >>Hello >> >>So, all you OpenIndiana developers, whom I admire, what comes next? :) >>I've seen few people declaring they would like to help, I think packaging was >>mostly mentioned. >>Please, let me ask few questions. >> >>1. Is this link still valid? http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/IPS+Knowledge >>2. What would those people need to do, so start maintaining a package? Is >>there a process, >>like in Debian, a person has to go through before they are given package >>maintaining duty? >>3. Is the development sof OI till going at all? >> >>4. What you, OI developers, would want from this distribution? What your >>priorities are? Below are things that I intend to work and code on. These were all problems in OI-147. I just upgraded to OI-151a, and some these may have been fixed. As soon as a scrub completes, I will reboot the machine, get networking running and do 2, 1, 7, 5, 6, 3, 4, in that order. 1: Making drivers for wifi; drivers for usb3 (as soon as I get HW); improve usb-stack (major source of anguish and bugs). 2: Making NGZ appliances that users can use to get started on things like building illumos. Or other projects. NGZ appliances can be transported via USB device (because some machines may not be networked [no wifi drivers, etc]). 3: Delivering app-bundles to the GZ using zfs datasets. Same rationale as above, but some software (i.e. drivers) will only work on GZ. 4: Enhance IPS to utilize the above two methods (the more choices we have, the better). 5: Making improvements to IPS. IPS already has a large catalog of software. It would be difficult to justify making a new pkg-system from scratch, because repackaging everything would outweigh any superiority of a new pkg system. Improvements include performance improvements, bug fixes to IPS, better error messages, and bug fixes to existing packages, that fail to install. 6: Modernize compiler support. Illumos still sucks at compiling modern C++ code, even though some major commands/apps are in C++ (nmap, Chrome, firefox). I am thinking of bringing Clang and GCC up to date. This is mostly for userland, as the Illumos kernel already compiles with an older version of GCC. 7: Port i3 and dwm, and add them to IPS-repos. Same for cmake (surprising how many projects use it). >> >> >>I'd like to reiterate what I've said many times in the past, when OpenSolaris >>was still a live distribution. >>If illumos wants to become widespread, it needs desktop distribution, a >>usable one, so that people can use it, >>play with it and learn it. This is how Linux crept into datacenters, because >>people like me installed it as their >>hobby desktop, to look at X, to look at FVWM, to use pine and share modem >>connection at home. And then, >>it was natural to start exim and apache on it. And then people like me became >>admins, CIOs and CTOs and >>started to use what they knew and liked. And I'd love illumos to become the >>system people can install as their >>hobby desktop. Agreed. Hence why need to support the latest or near-latest popular unix-apps. For example firefox is still at 3.X, and we don't have chrome. Drivers are not getting made. My thinkpad has no wifi. NGZs are not being utilized to their full potential. I am going to try to fix as much of this as possible. >> >>Thank you. >> >>Damian Wojsław >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>oi-dev mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > _______________________________________________ > oi-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev _______________________________________________ oi-dev mailing list [email protected] http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
