On 07/09/2012 06:07, [email protected] wrote:
There have been technical disagreements, and I've pointed out that there has
been in the past what I think represents a lack of clear vision for OI. But
that's *my* opinion, and I don't speak for illumos in this regard. (Nor can I
-- or anyone else -- illumos is moving towards a mutual benefit corporation
that would preclude a single person dictating the position of illumos.)
I'm sorry if our vision wasn't communicated properly.
When OI started, Oracle were still publishing all the source to
OpenSolaris including ONNV. OI was started to provide binary builds of
that so that those of us using OpenSolaris could continue to do so. This
made us equivalent to the CentOS->RedHat relationship.
Then Oracle closed the gate and illumos took on a life of its own, and
soon after OpenIndiana abandoned any notions of being a clone of Solaris 11.
The new vision that arose from this was very much about being the
leading *community* developed illumos based general purpose operating
system. Basically what Debian is to the Linux world.
I hope that's clear.
However I think OI and illumos have been fairly symbiotic -- indeed OI still builds upon
the illumos base, and at the moment OI is the "de-facto" reference distribution
of illumos. However, if OI is considering a different base -- say SchilliX -- then that
would probably represent a significant rift. (I have some concerns about the topics of
conversation on oi-dev of late; decisions to for example change the shell or filesystem
layout can have broad ramifications. While a distro can choose to do as it wants, if
there is that much difference between the base and the distro, then it will be much
harder for the base developers to continue to use the distro as a reference.)
The relationship has been entirely symbiotic and I don't think we've
really had that many disagreements, perhaps only some tension at the
beginning. OI was always understaffed and it took a lot of time and
effort for the volunteers to get up to speed on how everything worked.
A lot of the talk you've seen on the oi-dev mailing list regarding
changing the default shell, splitting off /usr or switching to Schillix
is coming from the peanut gallery of people who like to provide their
opinions on things but who have never actually contributed to the project.
We have no intention of moving away from illumos-gate nor making any
major changes. I also want to RTI all the non-branding related changes
in our illumos-gate fork - we only maintain it because none of us have
had time to RTI stuff.
Cheers,
Alasdair
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