Hello,
 
Note: OI is nothing more than a 'server OS' distribution with additional 
software. Leave it at that.
 
 
OI surely can mentor students as there are 'students' that already work on that 
project.
 
As for illumos, I note that there 'should be' a general focus on projects that 
a group of students can
 work on for the summer or accomplish in the 3-month span.
 
Porting device drivers is such a task. Many 'experts' here on kernel and device 
driver programming.
 
I'd like to see students work on USB 3.1/Thunderbolt 2 drivers for illumos. A 
few storage partners
use illumos and supporting device drivers related to storage makes sense - not 
so much graphic drivers. 
 
That brings into focus the reality of how illumos is being used on the 'bigger 
scale' of things. The
illumos kernel developers that can mentor students based on projects they may 
work on internally
and can hopefully lead that work into future jobs for the student or a great 
job reference.
 
As for OI GSoC, a project like 'Implement the 2013Q3 Intel Graphics Stack' is a 
great project which involves
upstream's Xnv implementation.
 
Note: I'd donate high-end graphic cards/workstations to students accomplishing 
those goals.
 
Sincerely,
Ken Mays
 
 
  



On Friday, February 14, 2014 2:53 PM, Garrett D'Amore <[email protected]> 
wrote:
  
Lets all agree that we don’t want any simple efforts to just package software 
as part of GSoC, whether for any distribution.

Let’s also agree that if some very compelling project (forward and innovative 
thinking, not just making illumos try to compete with Linux on Linux’s terms) 
for Desktop technology comes up, we can evaluate such a project on its merits, 
and consider it as a candidate for GSoC slots.

Let’s also agree that opinions of folks not actively volunteering to mentor 
really don’t count for much here.   Its the time on the part of the mentors and 
admin, and Google’s money at stake.  Unless a project poses a risk to the 
“reputation” for illumos, it shouldn’t matter to other parties.

Thanks.

-- 
Garrett D'Amore
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On February 14, 2014 at 9:19:35 AM, Keith Wesolowski 
([email protected]) wrote:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:20:43PM +0000, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: 
>
>> However there are plenty of people who do want to run it on the desktop, and 
>> who are you to tell them they should not do this? 
>
>I'm not telling people what to work on, since they're not employed by 
>me.  I'm trying to make sure that the illumos community represents 
>itself favourably and accurately to the wider world, especially when 
>trying to recruit young engineers to work on our operating system. 
>
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