Hi Peter,

> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Peter Tribble <peter.trib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Alexander Pyhalov <a...@rsu.ru 
> <mailto:a...@rsu.ru>> wrote:
> 
> Two new image types: OI_MATE - this is Mate-based LiveDVD and OI_minimal (we 
> tried to strip down OI a bit). One thing about minimal image - it doesn't 
> deliver sudo, so initial user just gets root role. Note, these are test 
> images and not official snapshots.
> 
> Well done on shifting to MATE.
> 
> Some notes on the "minimal" iso:
> 
> Why prompt for language when there's only one option?

I think this has to do with the fact that we didn’t modify installer to reflect 
this. Do you think we should ship more languages or it’s fine as it is (+ 
language selection screen in that case)?

> Calling it minimal doesn't quite seem right. It's got bits of X, tcl, tk, 
> cairo,
> GL, berkelydb, mariadb, apr, apr-util, gdbm, graphite, openblas, cdrtools,
> 2 copies of python, ruby, fortran, apache. One or two bits I can imagine
> being pulled in via dependencies, but a lot of this seems wrong.
> 
> Doesn't have the man command (although it does have a lot of man
> pages). I would expect to be able to read man pages
> 

Alexander and I worked on the minimal list and we put in there we though was 
needed. The list is contained here: 
https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/6bb1bbacebdf2ae843ff749275ab6d9d45a81ad3/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/minimal
 
<https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/6bb1bbacebdf2ae843ff749275ab6d9d45a81ad3/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/minimal>

I suppose the most of those packages where dragged in via dependencies. For 
packages:

- runtime/python-26 it is used by pkg/illumos-gate and unless pkg in OmniOS is 
updated (we spoke to Dan about it already, but is busy with LX, so we can’t 
drop the package. Some illumos-gate consumers also need python 2.6)
- runtime/python-27 is provided for the userland and it also used explicitly by 
the userland.

We tried to minize the amount of packages depending on python-26, but the 
packages coming of out illumos-gate are the main consumers, so there isn’t 
really another right now.

system/man was not omitted on purpose, I added it to the file list now.


> 
> We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next snapshot 
> (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one are 
> enough. We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot 
> (in 2017).
> 
> Presumably minimal is the new "text" iso.

We don’t consider it to be a replacement for text as of this moment. It’s just 
a much stripped down versions of text installer and in the future, text 
installer might be deprecated. However, this hasn’t been decided yet.

Cheers,
Adam

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