Sorry. I had a really bad day. I hope I could call back some of my mails. But it's impossible anyway.
---- On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 16:15:08 +0700 Michael Schuster <[email protected]> wrote ---- > Hi Hung, > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:39 AM Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev > <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe... I'm impolite. But what if I'm just visit here once for this purpose > then? > > I only care about the result. Maybe I'm posted on the wrong mailing list. > Maybe OI-discuss more fit? > > The only thing I want to see and to care is: the next version of OI, nano > is included alongside of vi in the text and minimal version. > > It's just simple as that. Why make thing complicated? > > Or this whole DIY stuffs here is just a polite way to say: we don't care > about your concern and it you could send we a pull request we may > 'optionally' consider it? > > Then just said: 'Fuck off! We don't care!'. Straight forward so I could > know to silently go away. This will not waste our time with a bunch of back > and forth emails. > > you don't seem to realise or appreciate the fact that this is a project that > is (almost?) exclusively driven by volunteers. As such, these volunteers > decide what gets done. > In such an environment, the best way to get things the way you want them > done is doing them yourself (not because people don't care, but because > their priorities aren't necessarily yours ... and because they're probably > quite busy doing stuff) - as you've found out, this requires effort on your > part. The second best option is asking, nicely, and offering your help on > the way and supplying as much information as possible (eg, error messages, > compiler output ... ). > > Using language like "I want", "morons", "weird" will not put you or your > issue at the front of anyone's favourite list. > > I don't see people telling you to go away - rather, they're (quite politely, > in my POV) telling you to follow what used to be called "netiquette". > > regards > Michael > > > ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev > <[email protected]> wrote ---- > > > In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi, > Hung...: > > > > > Yes, it's just a single line. But why you give me a read-only file and > > > asked me to modified it? > > > > > > It's much more simpler for developer with write access to do it, not > me. > > > And it's within a second, just a single line. > > > > I don't know if other languages and cultures have an equivalent, but > there > > is a proverb[1] that applies here: > > > > If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. > > If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime. > > > > Teaching someone (or helping them learn) how to do something is often > > more useful than just doing something (once) for them. > > > > Aurélien is trying to help you to learn to fish. > > > > Learning how to clone oi-userland, create a branch, make a very simple > > change like this, and submit a pull request (PR) is very useful > knowledge > > to have for anyone that wants to contribute to OI. There are certainly > > other ways to contribute, but since you're posting to the oi-dev list, > > it seems like you might be interested in the development process. > Knowing > > the workflow for submitting a change is potentially beneficial to you. > > > > Yes, he could do it in just a couple minutes. But then you've missed an > > opportunity to learn something that might allow you to contribute to OI. > > > > [1] the origin of this proverb appears to be quite contested, but it > > seems like it might be Lao-Tzu. > > > > Tim > > > > > ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:49:50 +0700 Aurélien Larcher > <[email protected]> wrote ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 9:09 AM Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > This should be done for none desktop OI flavors: OI text and OI > minimal. > > > > > > > > It will help novice user like me very much. Please consider it, > developers. I have trouble using the vi editor even though I have my mobile > phone with me as a backup showing the vi tutorial. And I think many other > novice users have the same trouble as me. > > > > > > > > Doing as Fedora is a step too far: > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-33-Nano-Is-The-Default > > > > > > > > > I only asked for shipping nano alongside with vi. The link I put > above just to note that nano has pretty much become the default editor on > the Linux world and most of us come from Linux. It will be easier for us. > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > basically one could add the nano package to: > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/minimal > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Aurélien > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > oi-dev mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > oi-dev mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > oi-dev mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > > > > > > -- > > Tim Mooney [email protected] > > Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure / > > Division of Information Technology / 701-231-1076 > (Voice) > > North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND > 58105-5164_______________________________________________ > > oi-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > oi-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > > -- > Michael Schuster > http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ > recursion, n: see 'recursion' > _______________________________________________ > oi-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > _______________________________________________ oi-dev mailing list [email protected] https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
