----- Op 1 nov 2022 om 19:37 schreef Tim Mooney via oi-dev 
[email protected]:

> That's atypical, and not really desirable behavior.

OK, then at least we seem to agree here that the oi-userland "design 
philosophy" is,
that the tests should be ran from BUILD_DIR.

That is, the idea seems to be that after 'gmake build' and *before* copying to 
the prototype area,
the tests are supposed to be ran from the software that is still in the build 
directory, before it is copied to the prototype directories (with gmake 
install).

The way I was looking at it I thought it was more logical to run it from the 
prototype area,
but that is clarified now, and it is just a convention.

> Is there an environment variable that can be overridden during the test,
> to point squeak at the directory/directories that contain the
> *uninstalled* plugins?

Yes.  I was already using SQUEAK_PLUGINS to point to the prototype area.

Now that you have confirmed that the idea is to run the tests from BUILD_DIR,
what I just did was:

 SQUEAK_PLUGINS=$BUILD_DIR/plugin1:$BUILD_DIR/plugin2:$BUILD_DIR/plugin3: ....

fortunately SQUEAK_PLUGINS accepts a : separated path of directories like 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

> Requiring that something be "installed" (even though in this case it's
> being copied into a staging area for packaging) before it can be tested
> is backwards.  The vast majority of open source software does not do that,
> and OI's targets are set up to assume the more common behavior of being
> able to test before anything has been installed.

So using that solution to set SQUEAK_PLUGINS to point to the various plugin 
directories in the build area, it works.

I am just trying to understand what the "design philosophy" of gmake test is 
for OpenIndiana.

With the solution to point SQUEAK_PLUGINS to the various plugin directories in 
the build directory, like that, I can run Smallltalk from the BUILD_DIR before 
it is fully 'installed' in the prototype area.

Please note that SUnit the testing framework are thousands of tests, and it is 
also a framework that is extensible.

  http://sunit.sourceforge.net

Most of the SUnit tests are higher level application level tests.

So for example if additional plugins or applications under Smalltalk are 
loaded, the SUnit framework changes and gets extended with additional tests.

Anyway, I had been hoping that the "gmake test" could be interfaced to "SUnit".

And indeed this seems to 'kind of work'.

Thanks anyway for clarifying how "gmake build" "gmake test" and "gmake install" 
relate.
David Stes

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