Hi Eric
I am not aware on the non-CSM UEFI issue or the Proxmox one. I am not
always listening on all Lists, but we are trying to build a Association
with Stakeholders for that effort like the FreeBSD foundation. If you
are interested in signing up let me know so I can send you the details.
I kept things like the Bylaw drafts etc off list but I am happy to send
them through.
-Till
On 13.08.25 04:06, Eric J Bowman wrote:
These responses prove OP's point exactly. Want gfx? Refer to the manual
on how to write your own driver, despite the problem being NV Optimus
cards "fall off the bus" because loader doesn't map above 4GB, making it
not a driver issue. Where's the guidance from the community, other than
go figure this out for yourself but don't bother us unless you have code
to commit, then if you get stuck... maybe this is why so few developers?
Maybe a 15-year out-of-date graphics stack is an argument against
continuing largely as you have?
Hard to work on the kernel when none of the distros boot on non-CSM
UEFI, or the latest Proxmox, no Ventoy et al compatibility because
it's /EFI not /efi... maybe those of you who know what the issues are
can write them down and solicit some specific help? Instead of sending
everyone who asks on a wild goose chase while you play the victim card
of "too few developers here"? Just say up front: No AMD gfx, no Intel
HD630+, no NV Optimus, no UEFI-only boxes need apply, instead of
whatever compels all y'all to just keep ignoring folks who post to your
list, or giving them misleading answers...?
Or just state outright, that the stakeholders who control access aren't
interested in making illumos friendly to new users in 2025, meaning
it'll be gone by 2030 if y'all keep this up.
-Eric
---- On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 17:01:38 -0700 *Ren Kararou via illumos-discuss
<disc...@lists.illumos.org>* wrote ---
You may say "ah, but I am not a kernel developer, I can not do those
things"! But the kernel is just a big C program, and everybody
who is
comfortable working on it now started out from a point where
they were
not yet able to do that.
If you want to see progress, pick an issue and work on it. Other
folks in the community can provide advice and help you if you get
stuck! Otherwise, things will continue largely as they have.
Tacking on to this, the illumos website has lots of valuable
documentation on this exact topic, generally at https://illumos.org/
books/ <https://illumos.org/books/> and more specifically for
drivers and such at https://illumos.org/books/wdd/preface.html
<https://illumos.org/books/wdd/preface.html#preface>
Ren
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