Truly excellent idea.

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Today's Topics:

   1. The meaning of ? Mackerel (Larry Gritz)
   2. Re: The meaning of ? Mackerel (Noah Rahm)
   3. Re: The meaning of ? Mackerel (Larry Gritz)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 20:26:59 -0700
From: Larry Gritz <l...@imageworks.com>
To: OpenImageIO developers <oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org>
Subject: [Oiio-dev] The meaning of ? Mackerel
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Across the various communications channels (GH issues, oiio-dev mail list,
and now the #openimageio channel on the ASWF Slack), there are a lot of
messages that request answers, fixes, or enhancements, and I'm trying hard
to wean myself off of the temptation to handle them all myself, and instead
I want to say the following:

*I could handle this request, but so could other people. I swear I don't
have any special knowledge or skills that make me the only one, or even the
best one. Individually it might make sense for me to quickly
answer/fix/implement this, but I certainly don't have the time to handle
all such requests, and even if I did, it would displace other tasks for
which I really am the only appropriate person. Furthermore, my doing it
would rob somebody else of the chance to grow into a more knowledgeable
contributor to OpenImageIO, and that's bad for the project. You all know
the adage about giving someone a fish versus teaching them to fish.*

*So please, somebody, stretch a little, and try to catch this fish. People
on the TSC, people who would like to expand their contributions, people who
are first-timers. I'm still here to coach you and answer questions, to
review code, and to bounce ideas off of. It will help the project and its
users immensely to spread the knowledge and the responsibility around.*


But boy, that's a mouthful. It's tedious to write that constantly, and you
don't want to read it. So I wanted to find a playful shorthand that we'll
all understand, and here it is:

? Mackerel!


By the way, it *doesn't* mean the person filing the issue or asking the
question should fix it themselves. It means, hey, you other onlooker who
has OIIO knowledge, I'm talking to you! Think to yourself, "I know the
answer" or "I could figure out how to solve this," and be the hero we need
today!


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Larry Gritz
l...@imageworks.com
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 03:44:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: Noah Rahm <correctsyn...@yahoo.com>
To: OpenImageIO developers <oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org>
Subject: Re: [Oiio-dev] The meaning of ? Mackerel
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 Now look.. you made me hungry...:)

Good idea. Doing this may just become a viral trend in the OSS world...;)
-Noah
    On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:28:28 PM CDT, Larry Gritz 
<l...@imageworks.com> wrote:

 Across the various communications channels?(GH issues, oiio-dev mail list, and 
now the #openimageio channel on the ASWF Slack), there are a lot of messages 
that request answers, fixes, or enhancements, and I'm trying hard to wean 
myself off of the temptation to handle them all myself, and instead I want to 
say the following:

I could handle this request, but so could other?people. I swear I don't have 
any special knowledge or skills that make me the only one, or even the best 
one. Individually it might make sense for me to quickly answer/fix/implement 
this,?but I certainly don't have the time to handle all such requests, and even 
if I did, it would displace other tasks for which I really am the only 
appropriate person. Furthermore, my doing it would rob somebody else of the 
chance to grow into a more knowledgeable contributor to?OpenImageIO, and that's 
bad for the project. You all know the adage about giving someone a fish versus 
teaching them to fish.
So please, somebody, stretch a little, and try to catch this fish. People on 
the TSC, people who would like to expand their contributions, people who are 
first-timers. I'm still here to coach you and answer questions, to review code, 
and to bounce ideas off of. It will help the project and its users immensely to 
spread the knowledge and the responsibility around.

But boy, that's a mouthful. It's tedious to write that constantly, and you 
don't want to read it. So I wanted to find a playful shorthand that we'll all 
understand, and here it is:

? Mackerel!?

By the way, it *doesn't* mean the person filing the issue or asking the 
question should fix?it themselves. It means, hey, you other onlooker who has 
OIIO knowledge, I'm talking to you! Think to yourself, "I know the answer" or 
"I could figure out how to solve this," and be the hero we need today!?

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 22:14:24 -0700
From: Larry Gritz <l...@larrygritz.com>
To: OpenImageIO dev list <oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org>
Subject: Re: [Oiio-dev] The meaning of ? Mackerel
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Haha, nothing would make me happier than if this catches on!  Equally so if it 
just became an ASWF catchphrase, not the whole OSS world, I'm not that greedy. 
:-)

And by the way, Danny Greenstein wins the prize for picking the winning entry 
for which fish to use!


> On Jun 7, 2023, at 8:44 PM, Noah Rahm <correctsyn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Now look.. you made me hungry...:)
>
> Good idea. Doing this may just become a viral trend in the OSS world...;)
>
> -Noah
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:28:28 PM CDT, Larry Gritz 
> <l...@imageworks.com> wrote:
>
>
> Across the various communications channels (GH issues, oiio-dev mail list, 
> and now the #openimageio channel on the ASWF Slack), there are a lot of 
> messages that request answers, fixes, or enhancements, and I'm trying hard to 
> wean myself off of the temptation to handle them all myself, and instead I 
> want to say the following:
>
> I could handle this request, but so could other people. I swear I don't have 
> any special knowledge or skills that make me the only one, or even the best 
> one. Individually it might make sense for me to quickly answer/fix/implement 
> this, but I certainly don't have the time to handle all such requests, and 
> even if I did, it would displace other tasks for which I really am the only 
> appropriate person. Furthermore, my doing it would rob somebody else of the 
> chance to grow into a more knowledgeable contributor to OpenImageIO, and 
> that's bad for the project. You all know the adage about giving someone a 
> fish versus teaching them to fish.
>
> So please, somebody, stretch a little, and try to catch this fish. People on 
> the TSC, people who would like to expand their contributions, people who are 
> first-timers. I'm still here to coach you and answer questions, to review 
> code, and to bounce ideas off of. It will help the project and its users 
> immensely to spread the knowledge and the responsibility around.
>
> But boy, that's a mouthful. It's tedious to write that constantly, and you 
> don't want to read it. So I wanted to find a playful shorthand that we'll all 
> understand, and here it is:
>
> ? Mackerel!
>
> By the way, it *doesn't* mean the person filing the issue or asking the 
> question should fix it themselves. It means, hey, you other onlooker who has 
> OIIO knowledge, I'm talking to you! Think to yourself, "I know the answer" or 
> "I could figure out how to solve this," and be the hero we need today!
>
>
> --
> Larry Gritz
> l...@imageworks.com 
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