Truly excellent idea. ________________________________ From: Oiio-dev <oiio-dev-boun...@lists.openimageio.org> on behalf of oiio-dev-requ...@lists.openimageio.org <oiio-dev-requ...@lists.openimageio.org> Sent: 08 June 2023 15:14 To: oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org <oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org> Subject: Oiio-dev Digest, Vol 177, Issue 9
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Mackerel Message-ID: <cantcemyu3qbdayyjcdrnajj00cmpd+8d3y5sr1wxxdcbn3a...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Across the various communications channels (GH issues, oiio-dev mail list, and now the #openimageio channel on the ASWF Slack), there are a lot of messages that request answers, fixes, or enhancements, and I'm trying hard to wean myself off of the temptation to handle them all myself, and instead I want to say the following: *I could handle this request, but so could other people. I swear I don't have any special knowledge or skills that make me the only one, or even the best one. Individually it might make sense for me to quickly answer/fix/implement this, but I certainly don't have the time to handle all such requests, and even if I did, it would displace other tasks for which I really am the only appropriate person. Furthermore, my doing it would rob somebody else of the chance to grow into a more knowledgeable contributor to OpenImageIO, and that's bad for the project. You all know the adage about giving someone a fish versus teaching them to fish.* *So please, somebody, stretch a little, and try to catch this fish. People on the TSC, people who would like to expand their contributions, people who are first-timers. I'm still here to coach you and answer questions, to review code, and to bounce ideas off of. It will help the project and its users immensely to spread the knowledge and the responsibility around.* But boy, that's a mouthful. It's tedious to write that constantly, and you don't want to read it. So I wanted to find a playful shorthand that we'll all understand, and here it is: ? Mackerel! By the way, it *doesn't* mean the person filing the issue or asking the question should fix it themselves. It means, hey, you other onlooker who has OIIO knowledge, I'm talking to you! Think to yourself, "I know the answer" or "I could figure out how to solve this," and be the hero we need today! -- Larry Gritz l...@imageworks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openimageio.org/pipermail/oiio-dev-openimageio.org/attachments/20230607/a8141bed/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 03:44:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Noah Rahm <correctsyn...@yahoo.com> To: OpenImageIO developers <oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org> Subject: Re: [Oiio-dev] The meaning of ? Mackerel Message-ID: <624760652.1068831.1686195897...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Now look.. you made me hungry...:) Good idea. Doing this may just become a viral trend in the OSS world...;) -Noah On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:28:28 PM CDT, Larry Gritz <l...@imageworks.com> wrote: Across the various communications channels?(GH issues, oiio-dev mail list, and now the #openimageio channel on the ASWF Slack), there are a lot of messages that request answers, fixes, or enhancements, and I'm trying hard to wean myself off of the temptation to handle them all myself, and instead I want to say the following: I could handle this request, but so could other?people. I swear I don't have any special knowledge or skills that make me the only one, or even the best one. Individually it might make sense for me to quickly answer/fix/implement this,?but I certainly don't have the time to handle all such requests, and even if I did, it would displace other tasks for which I really am the only appropriate person. Furthermore, my doing it would rob somebody else of the chance to grow into a more knowledgeable contributor to?OpenImageIO, and that's bad for the project. You all know the adage about giving someone a fish versus teaching them to fish. So please, somebody, stretch a little, and try to catch this fish. People on the TSC, people who would like to expand their contributions, people who are first-timers. I'm still here to coach you and answer questions, to review code, and to bounce ideas off of. It will help the project and its users immensely to spread the knowledge and the responsibility around. But boy, that's a mouthful. It's tedious to write that constantly, and you don't want to read it. So I wanted to find a playful shorthand that we'll all understand, and here it is: ? Mackerel!? By the way, it *doesn't* mean the person filing the issue or asking the question should fix?it themselves. It means, hey, you other onlooker who has OIIO knowledge, I'm talking to you! Think to yourself, "I know the answer" or "I could figure out how to solve this," and be the hero we need today!? -- Larry Gritz lg@imageworks.com_______________________________________________ Oiio-dev mailing list Oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org http://lists.openimageio.org/listinfo.cgi/oiio-dev-openimageio.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openimageio.org/pipermail/oiio-dev-openimageio.org/attachments/20230608/836f1516/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 22:14:24 -0700 From: Larry Gritz <l...@larrygritz.com> To: OpenImageIO dev list <oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org> Subject: Re: [Oiio-dev] The meaning of ? Mackerel Message-ID: <ae22ee9c-7ebd-4b1c-bc0f-1815190dc...@larrygritz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Haha, nothing would make me happier than if this catches on! Equally so if it just became an ASWF catchphrase, not the whole OSS world, I'm not that greedy. :-) And by the way, Danny Greenstein wins the prize for picking the winning entry for which fish to use! > On Jun 7, 2023, at 8:44 PM, Noah Rahm <correctsyn...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Now look.. you made me hungry...:) > > Good idea. Doing this may just become a viral trend in the OSS world...;) > > -Noah > On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:28:28 PM CDT, Larry Gritz > <l...@imageworks.com> wrote: > > > Across the various communications channels (GH issues, oiio-dev mail list, > and now the #openimageio channel on the ASWF Slack), there are a lot of > messages that request answers, fixes, or enhancements, and I'm trying hard to > wean myself off of the temptation to handle them all myself, and instead I > want to say the following: > > I could handle this request, but so could other people. I swear I don't have > any special knowledge or skills that make me the only one, or even the best > one. Individually it might make sense for me to quickly answer/fix/implement > this, but I certainly don't have the time to handle all such requests, and > even if I did, it would displace other tasks for which I really am the only > appropriate person. Furthermore, my doing it would rob somebody else of the > chance to grow into a more knowledgeable contributor to OpenImageIO, and > that's bad for the project. You all know the adage about giving someone a > fish versus teaching them to fish. > > So please, somebody, stretch a little, and try to catch this fish. People on > the TSC, people who would like to expand their contributions, people who are > first-timers. I'm still here to coach you and answer questions, to review > code, and to bounce ideas off of. It will help the project and its users > immensely to spread the knowledge and the responsibility around. > > But boy, that's a mouthful. It's tedious to write that constantly, and you > don't want to read it. So I wanted to find a playful shorthand that we'll all > understand, and here it is: > > ? Mackerel! > > By the way, it *doesn't* mean the person filing the issue or asking the > question should fix it themselves. It means, hey, you other onlooker who has > OIIO knowledge, I'm talking to you! Think to yourself, "I know the answer" or > "I could figure out how to solve this," and be the hero we need today! > > > -- > Larry Gritz > l...@imageworks.com > <mailto:l...@imageworks.com>_______________________________________________ > Oiio-dev mailing list > Oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org <mailto:Oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org> > http://lists.openimageio.org/listinfo.cgi/oiio-dev-openimageio.org > _______________________________________________ > Oiio-dev mailing list > Oiio-dev@lists.openimageio.org > http://lists.openimageio.org/listinfo.cgi/oiio-dev-openimageio.org -- Larry Gritz l...@larrygritz.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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