Okay thanks Tom, sorry, I was to quick (I thought so).

Here are some other thoughts about the collections in ojb. Hopefully they are of use to you (otherwise ignore them):

One thing which I noted is that for user-collection class it actually makes more sense to implement the TrackingCollection interface instead of the ManageableCollection interface. In the documentation of ojb however only the ManageableCollection is mentioned while it is not removal aware (which I think is very important).

Also the ManageableCollection interface only adds methods which are basically also offered by the Collection interface. Eventhough a user-defined collection should support the ManageableCollection the CollectionProxy class also assumes that the user-collectionclass is a valid java collection (when I look in the source code).
Maybe it would make more sense for user-defined collection classes to support the java.util.collection interface and if it should be removal aware also the TrackingCollection. The manageablecolleciton is then not required anymore (maybe only for backward compatibility).


gr. Martin

Thomas Dudziak wrote:
I looked at the CollectionFactory source you checked in and was
wondering if it was also possible to let the owner (the parent object)
of the collection be also passed to the createCollection methods in the
factory? The whole reason that I brought up the point of the
CollectionFactory is that I need the owner object during collection
construction. A collection factory is especially meaningfull in case
runtime information is required when creating the collection. However
the collection factory you checked in only allows the passing of more
static configuration information (i.e. collectiondescriptor). Or did I
miss something here?

You mention in the javadoc that collections should have a zero-argument
constructor because the collection proxies
create the collection on their own. However, if the collection classes
should required to be creatable by ojb code (and not by the factory)
then there is no real need for a CollectionFactory. If that restriction
applies then imo the CollectionFactory does not add more functionality
than the current CollectionClass attribute in the CollectionDescriptor.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Sorry if my reaction is to quick, this specific feature is kind of
important for me that's why...


As I wrote in the other thread, this is just the beginning :-) Right
now the collection factory is simply the result of factoring out the
determination and - in parts - the creation of collections for the
retrieval of collection descriptors and for querying.
However the creation of these collections is spread out across
multiple classes, one of which is the collection proxy mechanism, and
so it is a bit more difficult to unify.
My plan in this regard is to first move the collection creation
completely into the collection factory, and then add runtime info
(e.g. the owning object) to the creation calls.
This however will take some time which is why I left the isse in JIRA
open (in progress) for now.

Tom

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