I agree that it would be good to have some reference sites, 
where OJB is used in production. However, I suppose many
would feel like me in this matter: I have no idea how our client 
(the owner of the site) would feel about me posting a link,
and I hesitate to ask because on the one hand it does not 
seem important enough and on the other hand no one could 
actually see that OJB is used behind the curtains !
It is a Dutch language site anyway (a regional events site
with several thematic subsites). 

So yes, we have made a quite useful mediumsized production website
based on OJB (with JBoss, Jakarta Jetspeed, Jakarta Turbine
and Jakarta Jelly, three Tomcats, OpenSymhony OSCache and for
the database MSSQL server, all running on Win2000.)
It is attracting between 600 and 9000 (peak) users a day, 
and runs smoothly for extended periods of time.  
And no, I can not actually show you the wonders of the editorial 
interface of the content management system, because it is 
hidden behind a firewall. 

I feel OJB is quite useful in production, but you certainly
have to know what you are doing and what you are trying
to achieve with it. And there have been some tricky aspects,
but these could be solved by simple workarounds and small hacks. 

The main thing about OJB is that AFAIK it has an overall clean 
design, and it far beats making your own database abstraction 
layer and object/relational mapper. We certainly do not use all
of it, only the Persistence Broker parts, so there was less to
learn. We love the virtual proxy and collection proxy concepts, 
the criteria objects for building queries, and the nice little
hidden features that you find when you start to learn the system.
 
So many thanks to Thomas and the rest of the team for this 
inspiring piece of work, and their ongoing interest. 

Cheers,
        Theo Niemeijer  


> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: dinsdag 3 juni 2003 18:11
> Aan: OJB Users List
> Onderwerp: Re: Is OJB ready for production env ?
> 
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> 
> Charles Anthony wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Unfortunately our standard Mail Archive is currently down. We often get
> > these questions asked on the mailing list; you can search it here for more
> > detailed answers:
> > http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.jakarta.ojb.user
> > 
> > In short, though :
> > 1. Yes, several people are using OJB in production environments.
> > 2. No, the locking is currently part of the ODMG api.
> > 3. (I assume you mean reference sites) Yes.
> > 
> > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.ojb.user/6188
> > 
> > Thomas : Can we add this to the FAQ ?
> 
> you're right this is really getting a FAQ.
> I'll try to assemble something.
> It would be good if users with internet sites powered by OJB could post 
> their links. This will be the most easy way to provide references.
> 
> cheers,
> Thomas
> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Charles.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: 03 June 2003 15:23
> >>To: OJB Users List
> >>Subject: Is OJB ready for production env ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>     Is OJB ready for production env ?
> >>     Can I use "lock" with PB API or only with ODMG API ?
> >>     Is there a reference implemetation with all features of OJB ?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Vinicius Bomfim
> >>
> >>
> >>
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