> <snip>>
> > I just wonder how the testcases can be succesfull in the J2EE
junit-tests.
> > Shouldn't they fail reliably if clients try to modify the same data ?
> >
>
> we have no J2EE tests yet, as this would require to setup a complete
> container for our testsuite.

Well, the mulithreaded testcases should also fail (and I think saw somekind
of threaded tests in the testcode, or ?)

> <snip>
> >>that is of course also possible. Just set the attribute
> >>auto-retrieve="false".
> >
> >
> > Well - that I know, but then they will be retreived when I try to access
> > them -  And that I do not want on the client...se more below.
> >
>
> No!, they will just be set to null! no dynamic lazy loading if
> auto-retrieve="false"!

Ok - I thought auto-retrieve "enabled" the proxy mechanism.

> >
> >>>And using proxies is also not an option as I want to send the "object
> >>
> > graph"
> >
> >>>to a "remote"-site (e.g. client) where
> >>>there is no knowledge of a PersistenceBroker.
> >>>
> >>
> >>The OJB proxies are remote capable! You just have to run OJB in c/s mode
> >>to enable safely serializable proxies!
> >
> >
> > Yes - I know. But for security and performance reasons we would not like
the
> > client to be able to retreive these objects remotly.
> > Arguments:
> >
> > 1. The client should only get data through our session beans which can
check
> > for permissions on the data.
> > 2. Relationships is required to be stated in the repository.xml before
they
> > can be accessed as e.g. X.myY.fromData.
> >     Thus by requirement clients can without asking for "permission"
access
> > and accidently load all of the database -          not good!
> >
>
> OK! should be possible with auto-retrieve="false".
> (It is also possible to change the auto-retrieve attribute at runtime,
> to modify the loading behaviour if needed.)

But this is (as we discussed in another thread) not a threadsafe operation
as the repository-keeper is
shared amongst PersistenceBrokers.

> > If just I could have a method like OJBHelper.fillInRelation(X, "myY",
new
> > SomeCriteria()) which would insert or just return a collection for X's
myY
> > field - but only those Y's that fullfills the SomeCriteria().
> >
> > This would make it possible for my sessionmethods to gradually (under
> > control) fill in the object graph.
> > And if the client tries to access the relationships before they have
been
> > filled in (under control) then I would throw an exception.
> >
> > Am I still making my self clear ? :)
>
> crystal clear! This relationship helper is something I have thought
> about in the last week. As all needed functionality is already
> implemented in the PersistenceBroker it will be pretty easy to expose
> such a feature in the public API.
> I will put this feature on my personal todo list.

I just hope the todo list is not too long :)

/max


>
> >
> >
> >>>>>Even better/more flexible could be to be able to state: SELECT X.*,
Y.*
> >>>>
> >>>from
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>X,Y where x.date > y.fromdate and x.date < y.todate
> >>>>>And then have OBJ return a list of pairs of objects of X and Y class.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>This is not possible.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>No, but it sure would be nice - would'n'it ?
> >>>
> >>
> >>Would be nice, but:
> >>It would safe only one additional broker call.
> >
> >
> > If there are 100 X's and e.g. on average 5 Y's matching an X - then the
> > above query would save 99 queris to the database!
> >
> >
> >>On the other hand it would require a complete redesign of the current
> >>Query implementation.
> >
> >
> > Nah, would it ? Is there so strong a binding on the Query implementation
on
> > only returing one "column" of objects ?
>
> Yes the whole thing is meant to materialize objects of a single type
> (with some improvements for polymorphism).
>
> >
> >
> >>I have never missed this feature in real world projects. There have also
> >>been no user request asking for this feature.
> >
> >
> > It could save some queries to the database - so for performance reasons
it
> > would be nice.
> >
> > The alternative is to use ReportQueries as you stated - and then
manually
> > load the X's and the Y's. But then all the "good" properties of the
objects
> > such as uniqueness, optimistic locking and etc. would not automagically
be
> > fullfilled - would it ?
>
> correct!
>
> > (Here i am concerned about what if the programmer
> > doing this forgot to fill in some part of X and Y by accident ? This
would
> > not happen if OJB had the general methods for doing this (except if
OJB's
> > developers forgot that little thing :)
> >
>
> Did you have a look at our RowReader concept (see tutorial3.html) with a
>   RowReader it won't be too difficult to have X and Y objects
> materialized from the same ResultSet.
>
> cheers,
> Thomas
>
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