Nhá, Heloisa +1
AzScid! On 15-06-2014 18:01, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: > Hi, bellow the comments sent in private for me by Heloisa Pait, from our > advisory council. For this reason, Susanne, we should consultr our > community beforehand to start a campaign if you want our support. No > worries tho, lesson learned to improve next time. :) > > (Pessoal, eu encorajo fortemente tentarem ao máximo expressarem suas > opiniões em público e não concentrarem e mim. Quanto mais olhos, muitas > vezes é melhor. Respondo a Heloisa em breve, mas, é claro, qualquer um > aqui pode comentar. Tom) > > "Everton, > > We should not endorse this petition. Divisive and poorly written, it > will do more harm than good to our goals in fostering understanding > about the need for open knowledge in our society. > > Acho que no geral a gente precisaria estabelecer algum tipo de consulta > formal para endossar posições políticas. E, especialmente até essas > eleições, que prometem ser muito polarizadas, todo o cuidado é pouco > para não sermos capturados por um ou outro campo, ou por quem não tem > uma boa compreensão do que acontece aqui. > > Nossa questão - o conhecimento aberto - já é suficientemente > revolucionária. Não precisamos nos posicionar com relação a políticas > específicas de um ou outro governante ou candidato a não ser que estas > estejam relacionadas com nossa questão; nesse caso é preciso ter > objetividade e postura cívica. > > Se a Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre se firmar no Brasil, amanhã nós > estaremos sendo chamados para audiências no Congresso, teremos um peso > dentro do debate nacional. Essa é uma possibilidade concreta, e vai nos > exigir responsabilidade e foco. Como cidadãos, cada um de nós tem sua > opinião, isso é ótimo. Mas a Rede deve manter o foco. > > Heloisa > (share if you want)" > > > 2014-06-14 11:06 GMT-03:00 Everton Zanella Alvarenga <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > For instance, wouldn't make more sense to promote this facebook > post? (published 2 days ago by our communication assistent) > > https://www.facebook.com/OpenKnowledgeBrasil/posts/598646486900729 > > We have more Brazilians reading it and that is the focus, I guess. > Again, hurry and lack of communication. > > > 2014-06-14 11:00 GMT-03:00 Everton Zanella Alvarenga > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > Hi Susanne, (pessoal, vejam se alguém pode ajudar a Susanne com > a petição abaixo) > > I'm ccing the OKBr mailing list to see if our 250+ people there > can help somehow. Yes, you are right, things are a little too > centralized on me, so I'm busy. :) > > P. S. Please, do not forget to answer my e-mail about vetor > files for we make business cards and t-shirts. I know you are > also busy and doing things of Open Knowledge central priorities, > but these files I ask for centuries are a priority for me. > > P. P. S. Please, next time before releasing a campaign in > Brazil, *do consult the Brazilian community*, otherwise you can > need urgent help - not saying that is the case, but it can happens. > > Tom > > > 2014-06-14 5:23 GMT-03:00 Susanne Kendler - Open Knowledge > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > Hi Everton, or rather Tom :)! > > We are promoting the Brazil-focused change.org > <http://change.org> petition on FB > > https://www.facebook.com/stopsecretcontracts/posts/261590990713882. > This has gone out with a Portuguese-language pitch to sign. > > As was to be expected, we are getting some people commenting > in Portuguese. The auto-translate tells me that some are > picking out details how the contracts are being made, and if > signing any petitions is trustworthy. > > Comments on FB are a good way to engage, and explain why we > do what we do, and why we're making a certain point. So > would be ideal if we could respond in Portuguese - obviously > in quite concise form, as this is Facebook comments. > > Please see the comments we should possibly respond to below. > I know you're rather busy, but as the way we pitch this in a > local context is quite important, I thought you can best > either suggest answers, or hand over to someone else who can > respond in a couple of lines. > > If you can give me answers in Portuguese, I'll post them as > the page. Pls see below, with links. I think the first > answer should reinforce why we engage with OGP on this, 2nd > seems more focused on the petition format. > > Hope you can help briefly, > Thanks, > Susanne > > Erik Rafael > <https://www.facebook.com/erik.rafael.39?fref=ufi>Não é a > Dilma que firma contrato com empreiteiros. Os estádios ou > são dos governos estaduais ou privados. Logo quem tem de > prestar contas são os governadores e/ou a iniciativa privada > que construiu o estádio como é o caso do Itaquerão do > Corintians e do Beira Rio reformado. Não tem haver com o > governo federal diretamente. O governo federal liberou > empréstimo via BNDES. > > https://www.facebook.com/stopsecretcontracts/posts/261590990713882?comment_id=262075217332126&offset=0&total_comments=5 > > Rosane Romero Koreeda > <https://www.facebook.com/rosane.koreeda?fref=ufi>Não assino > nada , pois não posso cofiar em nada neste país de pessoas > pouco ou nada confiáveis.... > > https://www.facebook.com/stopsecretcontracts/posts/261590990713882?comment_id=262046777334970&offset=0&total_comments=5 > > > > > > -- > > Susanne Kendler > > Communications Manager > > */ > /* > > skype: susannekendler > > * > * > > Open Knowledge <http://okfn.org/> - See how data can > change the world > > http://okfn.org/ | @okfn <http://twitter.com/OKFN> | > Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/OKFNetwork> | Blog > <http://blog.okfn.org/> <http://okfn.org/about/newsletter> > > > > The Open Knowledge Foundation is a not-for-profit > organisation. 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