On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:22 AM, Jonathan Gray wrote:

The incubator project could let people propose, vote and comment on
ideas. Mike Chelen recently suggested we could use IdeaTorrent (GPL)
for this:

 http://www.ideatorrent.org/

As an alternative, may I suggest Vilfredo? The difference is in the view of voting. IdeaTorrent allows groups to identify the most popular answers. However, the most popular answer is not always the best answer. Often a much better answer comes from ingenious thinking and doesn't make sense to everyone at the outset. And just as likely, the best answer might be none of the proposed answers, but rather something which blends and synthesizes various answers proposed by different people. Or a great answer might come along late in the game, and not be able to get enough votes since a so-so answer already has a lot of support.

Vilfredo is a tool (admittedly in, roughly, late alpha) which actively promotes idea development.

It allows everyone to propose answers to a question and then vote on the answers. It does not pick the most popular answer, but rather winnows down the answers to a "Pareto front." Or in lay terms: to the minimum set of answers where everyone's votes are represented. it then repeats its process ad infinitum until it reaches a consensus. You can read how it works in detail here:
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Vilfredo#How_it_works

As rounds of voting progress, people end up morphing their answers, integrating bits of other answers, or even developing entirely new ideas based on the answers provided by others.

Again, the tool is still in a somewhat early stage of development, so it takes a little getting used to, but you can use it without any setup (other than a login):
http://vilfredo.org/
Though you may wish to read the FAQ before you dive in, or the metagovernment.org link above.

It also supports "rooms" so that you can make a dedicated OKFN room that is not visible to the general viewer.


Ed Pastore
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/User:Ed_Pastore

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