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Do you need to print this email? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 12 October 2012 11:46 To: [email protected] Subject: okfn-discuss Digest, Vol 85, Issue 16 Send okfn-discuss mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of okfn-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. OKFN & Environment Data (Rafael Pezzi) 2. Re: OKFN & Environment Data (Jonathan Gray) 3. OKFN & Environment Data (Jonathan Gray) 4. Re: OKFN & Environment Data (James Smith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:37:07 -0300 From: Rafael Pezzi <[email protected]> Subject: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/okfn-discuss/attachments/20121011/8494a 630/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:12:04 +0200 From: Jonathan Gray <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data To: Open Knowledge Foundation discussion list <[email protected]> Cc: Lisa Evans <[email protected]>, David Jones <[email protected]> Message-ID: <canq_vu1qkgmuozhqm8hsyfbvherkk5qyehpkbed7nzh6nwh...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for starting this conversation James! :-) A while back we started a Working Group on Climate Data which is currently 'incubating' (cc'ing Lisa Evans and David Jones who were involved in this group). If there was enough interest and someone who was willing to champion the group, then we could activate it again! http://wiki.okfn.org/Working_Groups/climatescience http://okfn.org/wg/ For background information, here are a few links related to our previous work in this area: http://blog.okfn.org/2007/11/20/the-ipcc-data-distribution-centre-enviro nmental-data-licensing/ http://blog.okfn.org/2009/12/05/climate-change-climate-sceptics-and-open -data/ http://blog.okfn.org/2010/01/28/clear-climate-code-and-data/ http://blog.okfn.org/2010/02/24/a-tour-of-climate-data-at-ckan/ http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Environmental_Data http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Environmental_Data/Policy http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/2009-December/000133.html http://thedatahub.org/group/climatedata I think that if we were to have a climate WG it would be good to have a few specific aims and objectives, e.g.: * Organising events/meetups - e.g. via http://www.meetup.com/OpenKnowledgeFoundation/ * Continuing to maintain the registry of climate data on CKAN - http://thedatahub.org/group/climatedata * Policy/advocacy work to encourage open licensing of climate data to key organisations and stakeholders. (Previous correspondence I had with the IPCC indicated that they were very keen to see more institutions change their licensing policies to be more open, but didn't have the bandwidth to negotiate this with each data contributor.) J. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Rafael Pezzi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi James and everyone else, > > Unfortunately I have not been to OKFestival, nor seen James Cameron and > Rosling's speeches. Nevertheless, I am deeply interested in open > Environmental Data together with some other folks from Brazil. > > We are getting organized to build an open source ecology for environmental > and weather data collection, visualization, interpretation. We are starting > to build some prototype weather station and air/water monitoring tools based > on Arduino and alikes, to be released under permissive licenses. All > methodology based on open source software and whenever possible, open > source/libre hardware. We aim to use the data for research and education > (urban micro-climate simulation/interpretation, environmental education, > climate change elucidation/mitigation). Our plans is to have one station of > these in each school. > > Once we have our first sensor network (prototype, at the university) > working, we'll need protocols for data transmission, authentication, data > storage, visualization and so on. I am not an expert in none of these - help > and suggestions are greatly appreciated. The project is open for > contributions from anyone and we are open for partnerships. We are in lack > of good practices for open data publishing. We would like to get it somewhat > right from the beginning. > > Our project page is mainly in Portuguese, anyway, here are the links to some > information that I have been collecting on these issues - some descriptions > have been pasted in English, though. Modules: , Platforms , References. > > This is the first big project of a center being created with the purpose of > using, studying, developing, and sharing open source technology at our > university, in southern Brazil. > > Please let me know if this conversation has been moved to another list. > > All the best, > Rafael > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: James Smith <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM > Subject: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data > To: [email protected] > > > Hi everyone, > > If you saw James Cameron or Hans Rosling's speeches at OKFestival, you'll > have heard them both call for Open Data to tackle environmental problems, > particularly around opening up emissions data and so on. > > There is a huge list of things that could be done, from opening up > environmental methodologies (AMEE recently opened their datasets, for > example), to improving scientific climate data, to national emissions > reporting, to visualisation, and there are some things going on in all these > areas already. > > I know a few people have been talking about maybe doing some of this within > OKFN, but I thought I'd try to pull the conversation together so we can all > work together instead of stepping on each others' toes! > > So, who's interested in this sort of thing, and what would you be interested > in doing? Are you already doing it? Are there parts that are more or less > appropriate for OKFN's mission? What fits, and what should be handled > elsewhere? > > We can discuss here initially, but could then move to a smaller list; there > are some fairly dormant-seeming OKFN WGs and lists that might be relevant > homes for the conversation, and we also have the cleanweb-uk list which is > full of people interested in this sort of thing (see > http://cleanweb.org.uk). > > cheers, > James > > > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > -- Jonathan Gray Head of Community The Open Knowledge Foundation http://www.okfn.org http://twitter.com/jwyg ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:15:06 +0200 From: Jonathan Gray <[email protected]> Subject: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data To: okfn-discuss <[email protected]> Cc: David Jones <[email protected]>, Lisa Evans <[email protected]> Message-ID: <CANQ_vu0veFYYz9PjGveGwdH9=aua3nwhr1mp3safcjtpalw...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 (And again with David's correct address!) Thanks for starting this conversation James! :-) A while back we started a Working Group on Climate Data which is currently 'incubating' (cc'ing Lisa Evans and David Jones who were involved in this group). If there was enough interest and someone who was willing to champion the group, then we could activate it again! http://wiki.okfn.org/Working_Groups/climatescience http://okfn.org/wg/ For background information, here are a few links related to our previous work in this area: http://blog.okfn.org/2007/11/20/the-ipcc-data-distribution-centre-enviro nmental-data-licensing/ http://blog.okfn.org/2009/12/05/climate-change-climate-sceptics-and-open -data/ http://blog.okfn.org/2010/01/28/clear-climate-code-and-data/ http://blog.okfn.org/2010/02/24/a-tour-of-climate-data-at-ckan/ http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Environmental_Data http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Environmental_Data/Policy http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/2009-December/000133.html http://thedatahub.org/group/climatedata I think that if we were to have a climate WG it would be good to have a few specific aims and objectives, e.g.: * Organising events/meetups - e.g. via http://www.meetup.com/OpenKnowledgeFoundation/ * Continuing to maintain the registry of climate data on CKAN - http://thedatahub.org/group/climatedata * Policy/advocacy work to encourage open licensing of climate data to key organisations and stakeholders. (Previous correspondence I had with the IPCC indicated that they were very keen to see more institutions change their licensing policies to be more open, but didn't have the bandwidth to negotiate this with each data contributor.) J. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Rafael Pezzi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi James and everyone else, > > Unfortunately I have not been to OKFestival, nor seen James Cameron and > Rosling's speeches. Nevertheless, I am deeply interested in open > Environmental Data together with some other folks from Brazil. > > We are getting organized to build an open source ecology for environmental > and weather data collection, visualization, interpretation. We are starting > to build some prototype weather station and air/water monitoring tools based > on Arduino and alikes, to be released under permissive licenses. All > methodology based on open source software and whenever possible, open > source/libre hardware. We aim to use the data for research and education > (urban micro-climate simulation/interpretation, environmental education, > climate change elucidation/mitigation). Our plans is to have one station of > these in each school. > > Once we have our first sensor network (prototype, at the university) > working, we'll need protocols for data transmission, authentication, data > storage, visualization and so on. I am not an expert in none of these - help > and suggestions are greatly appreciated. The project is open for > contributions from anyone and we are open for partnerships. We are in lack > of good practices for open data publishing. We would like to get it somewhat > right from the beginning. > > Our project page is mainly in Portuguese, anyway, here are the links to some > information that I have been collecting on these issues - some descriptions > have been pasted in English, though. Modules: , Platforms , References. > > This is the first big project of a center being created with the purpose of > using, studying, developing, and sharing open source technology at our > university, in southern Brazil. > > Please let me know if this conversation has been moved to another list. > > All the best, > Rafael > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: James Smith <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM > Subject: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data > To: [email protected] > > > Hi everyone, > > If you saw James Cameron or Hans Rosling's speeches at OKFestival, you'll > have heard them both call for Open Data to tackle environmental problems, > particularly around opening up emissions data and so on. > > There is a huge list of things that could be done, from opening up > environmental methodologies (AMEE recently opened their datasets, for > example), to improving scientific climate data, to national emissions > reporting, to visualisation, and there are some things going on in all these > areas already. > > I know a few people have been talking about maybe doing some of this within > OKFN, but I thought I'd try to pull the conversation together so we can all > work together instead of stepping on each others' toes! > > So, who's interested in this sort of thing, and what would you be interested > in doing? Are you already doing it? Are there parts that are more or less > appropriate for OKFN's mission? What fits, and what should be handled > elsewhere? > > We can discuss here initially, but could then move to a smaller list; there > are some fairly dormant-seeming OKFN WGs and lists that might be relevant > homes for the conversation, and we also have the cleanweb-uk list which is > full of people interested in this sort of thing (see > http://cleanweb.org.uk). > > cheers, > James > > > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > -- Jonathan Gray Head of Community The Open Knowledge Foundation http://www.okfn.org http://twitter.com/jwyg -- Jonathan Gray Head of Community The Open Knowledge Foundation http://www.okfn.org http://twitter.com/jwyg ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:34:50 +0100 From: James Smith <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data To: Open Knowledge Foundation discussion list <[email protected]> Cc: David Jones <[email protected]>, Lisa Evans <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi all, I think, given that the WG already went a bit quiet, it's best to focus on a small area that's specific to OKFN's interest. There are other organisations doing some bits already. For instance, I'm organiser of Cleanweb UK (http://cleanweb.org.uk), which organises meetups and events in this sort of area, and acts as a cross-organisational community. That means that a WG wouldn't have to take that on, which keeps things simpler. Similarly, the ODI may be able to do some of the policy/advocacy work. I guess I see OKFN's strengths as being in working with the actual data. There's lots that could be done here which could create solid results. As you mention, there is maintenance on the existing CKAN content, but we also have a lot of data that was recently opened by AMEE that could be adopted. Then there is the creation of an open standard for emissions reporting, which would help answer Rosling's 'Open Emissions Data Now' call. The Open Economics group also have some work ongoing in the area of open energy data. Of course, (and this may be heresy on this list, but who knows) this doesn't *have* to happen within the OKFN. A separate (though friendly) organisation might be simpler. cheers, James -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/okfn-discuss/attachments/20121012/4a735 e7d/attachment.htm> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ okfn-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss End of okfn-discuss Digest, Vol 85, Issue 16 ******************************************** _______________________________________________ okfn-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss
