So far, I was expecting this kind of disengagement from political
issues, with the recent transformation of the website and surrounding
communication. Shifting from "Free knowledge" to "how data can change
the world" was more than a mere symbolic change, imho...
If we have gone as far as considering that the NSA's breaking apart of
the Internet is none of our concern, I'm increasingly concerned that the
OKF is going to promote a much-sanitized version of its initial, bold
principles.
Pierre-Carl
Le 05/06/14 17:45, Friedrich Lindenberg a écrit :
Indeed, thats a strange argument - I would have gone for "it's a bit late now" or
"our CMS is too complicated" :)
There's something nice and clean about the idea that OKF will only ever lobby
for data release and not any particular other political goal.
Yet somehow the idea that US and UK intelligence can, on a global scale,
compromise the infrastructure of the net to turn it into a sort of virtual
security state seems to me like it would affect OKF's goals on a deeper level.
It fucks with the commons, makes it unusable as a space for open collaboration.
Chilling effects apply to open government.
On a much more pragmatic level, this whole thing makes everyone who utters the words "open
government" with an American or British accent look like a character out of "Yes,
Minister".
- Friedrich
On 05 Jun 2014, at 17:28, William Waites <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Laura,
That is a pretty bizarre position to take and seems to show a
surprising lack of understanding of the environment in which OKF
operates. For example, suppose a journalist or civil servant wants to
use some Open Data in order to draw attention to some problem in
government. Do you think it is appropriate for the same government
to be spying on them while they do this and if they are a civil servant
perhaps dismiss them on a pretext before they can finish and publish
their research? Do you think when the public sector publishes
information that it is appropriate to keep tabs on who is using that
information and for what?
"Does not quite fit within [OKF's] remit" is alarmingly out of step
with the rest of the 'net. Have a look at the list of which other
organisations supporting this and ask yourself if it appears to be
within you understand as their remit.
Please reconsider :)
-w
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:30:40 +0100
Laura James <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Will,
Reset the Net is an interesting initiative around freedom from mass
surveillance by government. We try to focus our Open Knowledge
endorsements on projects with a clear open data / open knowledge
element. There's lots of causes out there which we might well support
as individuals, especially around digital rights and so forth, but as
an organisation we feel it's best to focus our support on causes
directly related to our work and mission, which most likely means
that we can be confident that Open Knowledge folks would support the
cause. My sense is that Reset the Net doesn't quite fall within this
remit; what do others think?
Of course, Local Groups and Chapters may make their own decisions on
such initiatives, in consultation with the appropriate local board of
directors and community, and to ensure if they do sign that they make
it clear what organisation or group they represent - ie the Chapter
or the specific Local Group.
Best regards,
Laura
On 5 June 2014 12:19, William Waites <[email protected]> wrote:
It's not too late, and it'd be really good to have the
https://www.resetthenet.org/ banner or splash page up
today on the okfn.org web site
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