George Oates wrote:

> Hi Frankie,
>
>> I'm all for esoteric, folksonomy-esque subjects like "criminal
>> masterminds of Victorian London", but it seems a bit hack-ish to use
>> them for arbitrary lists (would I be allowed "Frankie's fav books"?)
>
> Negotiation and argument about classification (however esoteric or rubbery)
> seems to be the nature of the beast. I like to think of it as if we've 
> borrowed
> the professional classification(s) available to us as a substrate to be built
> upon, imitated or reacted to.
>
> You're certainly allowed any subject you like. We're not going to get into the
> business of editorialising subjects. And, I suppose, since it's a wiki, if 
> there
> is someone out there that does have a problem with it, it might be removed.

I'm all for that - you don't want to be in the business of policing
"subjects". Flat  taxonomies beat hierarchical ones hands-down.

> Point taken though, about it being a bit hacky. We wanted a quick way to 
> gather
> these titles into a presentable page that was useful to link to, rather than
> rely on people knowing what to search for, or only stumbling on OverDrive
> titles. Also found it curious to see what related subjects, publishing 
> history,
> authors and publishers emerged from counting it as a "subject".

Fair enough if it's a temporary hack. You could presumably provide the
same functionality using the 'borrowing' metadata at some point in the
future though?

> Re: Merging Works
> Yes! Soon! It's definitely up there, but for the next 2 months, we're all 
> going
> to be focussed on our annual October meeting, called Books in Browsers. 
> There's
> a draft schedule online here, if you're interested:
>
> http://reading20.posterous.com/tentative-draft-bib10-schedule

Looks interesting - bit of a long way to go for me though. Are the
sessions/talks going to be recorded at all?

Frankie

> Cheers,
> george
>
>
> Frankie Roberto wrote:
>> Hi George,
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>>    We've begun warping subjects a little bit. Overdrive is an example
>>    of an easy
>>    way for us to group a whole bunch of titles together, in this case,
>>    ebooks that
>>    are available for loan through the OverDrive lending system.
>>
>>    There are a few others: "protected DAISY", "accessible book", "new
>>    york times
>>    bestseller"...
>>
>>    Even though there are rules associated with subject headings and
>>    cataloging, I
>>    think what we're seeing is that in practice, it seems quite
>>    folksonomic in nature.
>>
>>
>> Hmm, I can see why you're going down this route (avoiding the whole
>> complex classification hierachy thing), but I think it's a bit
>> non-obvious to lump stuff that's not related to the actual content of
>> the book in with "Subjects".  The OverDrive info seems to be already
>> captured elsewhere (via the "borrow" links), so is it really needed?
>>
>> I'm all for esoteric, folksonomy-esque subjects like "criminal
>> masterminds of Victorian London", but it seems a bit hack-ish to use
>> them for arbitrary lists (would I be allowed "Frankie's fav books"?)
>>
>> P.S  When do we get to merge Works?  Is that up next?  More magic wands
>> please... :-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Frankie Roberto
>> Experience Designer, Rattle
>> 0114 2706977
>> http://www.rattlecentral.com
>>
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