Thanks for all the responses. Actually the Bots have already added some of these books, as has content taken off Amazon. The way I have played it up to now is to add 'Adult' books from so called legitimate publishers like Grove Press who had an imprint, Venus Library, which only released this sort of material. I have also added books from 'Adult ' publishers of that period, like Pendulum Books, Brandon House, Greenleaf Classics, Collectors Publications etc., that arguably had literary merit like their reprints of Victorian/Edwardian Erotica - most of which they pirated off Grove Press. Additionally books published by Maurice Girodias' Olympia Press in Paris and its later incarnations in New York and London,
I'm glad that it is felt that The Open Library should be inclusive of all books published. Those not wanting to be exposed to this should not worry as the books in question will only come up on searches if terms like 'Erotica' are entered. I should also say that the covers of these books may be suggestive but are not overtly pornographic. Please see the link below to see what I mean. https://picasaweb.google.com/stuart.fanning/VenusLibraryAnImprintOfGrovePressFrontCoversOfTitles19691973 Cheers, Stuart Fanning ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Mangum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [ol-discuss] 'Adult' books published in the 1960's & 1970's >I appreciate the subject of "Adult" Books being raised. > > I think there is a difference in how the content is labeled and provided. > There are a large number of individuals that battle issues with > pornography just like others are dealing with drug addiction or other self > destructive behavior. If there is a way to label content as Adult and not > intended for Children similar to a video game rating or even a browser > setting to exclude sexual or adult content. This allows those who choose > not to be exposed to the content to avoid it if the system allowed them to > exclude categories or select a rating for content provided if it be sexual > or drug or violence related. > > While I understand not making choices for others and respect that, I am > hoping that as systems like OL are created they can be considerate of > those who wish to avoid content as a personal choice as well. There is > something about wanting to go so far to one side that nothing can be > excluded to the point that use of a service is diminished because of the > risk of unwanted exposure to some material. > > My $.02 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Ol-discuss Digest, Vol 43, Issue 15 > > Send Ol-discuss mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Ol-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 'Adult' books published in the 1960's & 1970's (Stuart Fanning) > 2. Auto Reply: 'Adult' books published in the 1960's & 1970's > ([email protected]) > 3. Re: 'Adult' books published in the 1960's & 1970's (Alex Stinson) > 4. Auto Reply: Re: 'Adult' books published in the 1960's & > 1970's ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:16:07 -0000 > From: "Stuart Fanning" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ol-discuss] 'Adult' books published in the 1960's & 1970's > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <35B353BEA63D43428A4E18E2314E2015@xppc673> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > A bit of guidance please. When book censorship lifted in the US in the mid > to late 1960's a large number of 'adult' books were published, many of > which have become collectable items. Are the owners/sponsors of The Open > Library happy for these titles to be added, or would prefer for them not > to be? > > Thanks, Stuart Fanning > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/ol-discuss/attachments/20110225/06d3df5c/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:16:31 -0800 (PST) > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ol-discuss] Auto Reply: 'Adult' books published in the > 1960's & 1970's > To: Open Library -- general discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <9abe7141-a4aa-4f81-8714-7a99f45b7fce@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > This is an auto-replied message. I will be out of the office Thursday, > February 24th and Friday, February 25th. > > I will get back to you when I return on Monday, February 28th. > > Thank you - > > Christy > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:53:05 +0000 > From: Alex Stinson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ol-discuss] 'Adult' books published in the 1960's & > 1970's > To: Open Library -- general discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Though I certainly am not one of the sponsors of the project, I am one of > the volunteers and I would be rather offended if a program that called > itself "Open Library" would in fact be closed to broadly published books, > even if they are controversial. I think in a case like this you want to > look at common sense: we want to share open knowledge about books, per > http://openlibrary.org/help/faq#oclc , so any book published openly and > that could reasonably be included in any type of library (public, > university or adult if such a thing exists) should be included. Does that > mean we include all adult books published? No, but, in general all books > published with some degree of circulation should be here. This is my > opinion, I think it would be very counterproductive to start not > including books because of some sense of moral judgement on them. That > simply isn't the role of the librarian. > > I have seen similar discussions at Wikipedia and what it comes down to is: > if you are going to keep a project free and open, then any form of > censorship is against the grain of the mission, whereas reasonable > exclusion of things which aren't important, or in Wikipedia terms notable, > makes sense. > > Alex Stinson > User:Sadads > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sadads > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Stuart Fanning < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> A bit of guidance please. When book censorship lifted in the US in >> the mid to late 1960's a large number of 'adult' books were published, >> many of which have become collectable items. Are the owners/sponsors >> of The Open Library happy for these titles to be added, or would >> prefer for them not to be? >> >> Thanks, Stuart Fanning >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/ol-discuss/attachments/20110225/3f8d1a1e/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:53:28 -0800 (PST) > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ol-discuss] Auto Reply: Re: 'Adult' books published in the > 1960's & 1970's > To: Open Library -- general discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <001f03a9-0b2e-4bb6-b3af-f6255eb2ab28@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > This is an auto-replied message. 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