Edward, the x00 fields are "linked" virtually to the same LC name  
authority record, so they are considered the same entity, and have the  
same LC NA identifier. If you could get those identifiers into the  
"name/person" records then it wouldn't matter what the OL display form  
is. This would have to be done on the original MARC data, of course --  
I have no idea how difficult that would be.

kc

Quoting Edward Betts <[email protected]>:

> In MARC it is relatively easy to match up authors and subjects.
>
> For example this is how Winston Churchill is listed as an author:
>
> 100 10 $aChurchill, Winston,$cSir,$d1874-1965.
> from
> http://openlibrary.org/show-marc/marc_records_scriblio_net/part04.dat:119999029:773
>
> And as a subject:
>
> 600 10 $aChurchill, Winston,$cSir,$d1874-1965.
>
> from
> http://openlibrary.org/show-marc/marc_loc_updates/v36.i06.records.utf8:11707419:883
>
> As you can see they're the same, but not once we load them into Open Library.
>
> The subject becomes http://openlibrary.org/subjects/
> <http://openlibrary.org/show-marc/marc_loc_updates/v36.i06.records.utf8:11707419:883>
>    
> person:winston_churchill_sir_(1874-1965)
> <http://openlibrary.org/show-marc/marc_loc_updates/v36.i06.records.utf8:11707419:883>
> (This subject is a bit mangled with 'sir' on the end. We should either
> drop the 'sir', or move it to the start.)
>
> The author is
> <http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL316976A/Winston_Churchill>http://openlibrary.org/
> <http://openlibrary.org/show-marc/marc_loc_updates/v36.i06.records.utf8:11707419:883>authors/OL316976A/Winston_Churchill
>
> We could invent a new identifier for people and use it to represent
> both subjects and authors. Here are some possibilities:
>
> <http://openlibrary.org/person/Winston_Churchill>http://openlibrary.org/people
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Winston_Churchill>/Winston_Churchill
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Winston_Churchill>
> http://openlibrary.org/people
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Winston_Churchill>/Winston_Churchill
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Winston_Churchill>_(1874-1965)
> <http://openlibrary.org/show-marc/marc_loc_updates/v36.i06.records.utf8:11707419:883>
>
> For comparison Wikipedia uses a URL like this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill
>
> There are other people with this name. We could disambiguate authors
> with years after the name and make /people/Winston_Churchill show a
> list of people with that name, like the author search page:
>
> http://openlibrary.org/search/authors?q=Winston+Churchill
>
> Maybe we shouldn't include the type (/people) in the URL. Jim Pitman
> gave the example of Nicolas Bourbaki, an author that isn't a single
> person, but a collection of people. This could be loaded as one of
> these:
>
> http://openlibrary.org/people
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>/
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>Nicolas_Bourbaki
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>
> http://openlibrary.org/org
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>/
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>Nicolas_Bourbaki
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>
>
> It is easy to imagine this author being loaded with the first
> identifier, then we want to change the type, because it isn't a single
> person. We could make it so authors and subjects still have a type, but
> we avoid including the type in the URL. We could give the identifier as
> just Nicolas_Bourbaki, and make the URL:
>
> http://openlibrary.org/details
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>/
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>Nicolas_Bourbaki
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki> (like archive.org)
> http://openlibrary.org/wiki
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>/
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki>Nicolas_Bourbaki
> <http://openlibrary.org/people/Nicolas_Bourbaki> (like Wikipedia)
>
> Other wikis don't contain a hierarchy in the URL. It makes links
> simpler, we could include a link to this author with in the description
> of a book by just putting it in square brackets, like [[Nicolas
> Bourbaki]].
>
> -- 
> Edward.



-- 
Karen Coyle
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