Yes, in my mind wanting to say more about the birth would make it
worth recognising the birth event as a resource with it's own uri.

Rob Styles
Talis

On 9 Jun 2010, at 21:41, "Karen Coyle" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Some sources have place of birth and death -- would that argue for the
> bio: properties?
>
> kc
>
> Quoting Rob Styles <[email protected]>:
>
>> I would normally argue for identifying all things of interest as a
>> resource, events being commonly overlooked.
>>
>> In that vain, identifying the birth event would make sense, however
>> my
>> reason for trying to identify all objects of interest (including
>> events) is that it allows you and others to say things about them.
>>
>> In the case of births, and deaths but less so, there doesn't seem to
>> be much in the way of things to say, so I am less convinced of the
>> value over a simple birthdate property.
>>
>> Rob Styles
>> Talis
>>
>> On 9 Jun 2010, at 20:43, "Lee Passey" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/8/2010 7:19 PM, Ross Singer wrote
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> Interesting you consider RDF/FOAF a "band-wagon", considering FOAF
>>>> predates JSON (outside of merely being considered "a subset of
>>>> JavaScript").  It might also be considered "a ranklable offense" to
>>>> disparage RDF simply because you don't understand it or it's not
>>>> useful to you.  Do the JSON and XML serializations require this
>>>> level
>>>> of justification?
>>>
>>> Absolutely.
>>>
>>> As a matter of fact, I think OL's decision to use JSON, not merely
>>> as a
>>> data transfer format but also as a data storage format, to be
>>> probably
>>> the most ill-advised decision it has ever made. I suspect that the
>>> decision was made almost exclusively as a "band-wagon," and had this
>>> kind of spirited debate occurred at that time we would have had a
>>> much
>>> more robust data set with fewer duplicates.
>>>
>>> As it happens, I am becoming convinced that "foaf:person" and the
>>> "foaf"
>>> name variations are probably the best choice for encapsulating
>>> personal
>>> information in OL RDF, and I am arriving at that conclusion
>>> primarily
>>> because of the information and arguments made here.
>>>
>>> Debate is good.
>>>
>>> Questioning assumptions is good.
>>>
>>> Trying to identify your consumer and his/her/its needs is good.
>>>
>>> Unquestioning acceptance of the latest fad is bad.
>>>
>>> That having been said, I think the best way to encode dates of birth
>>> and
>>> death should be:
>>>
>>> <bio:Birth>
>>>  <dc:date
>>> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime";>[some
>>> date]</dc:date>
>>> </bio:Birth>
>>> <bio:Death>
>>>  <dc:date
>>> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime";>[some
>>> date]</dc:date>
>>> </bio:Death>
>>>
>>> Would someone like to talk me out of this now?
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