Yep, looking back at my code now, I see I actually _am_ using the 
advanced search form (in the more distant past, I was using something 
else, I had forgotten I had switched to advanced search).

Good to hear it's as stable as any other part of IA, and the plan is to 
support it indefinitely.

I hadn't realize that maybe it does nicely let me search on ISBN should 
I so desire. Except i bet it doens't do ISBN normalization properly, if 
OL doens't either. Anyone know?

One trick is that my code would _really_ like to know what formats a 
given item is available in, along with direct  URLs to those formats, 
but the "advanced search" response doesn't give me that. The OL Books 
API did, I think, recently have that added to it, and I was hoping to 
switch to the Books API for that, among other reasons. But now I'm 
thinking I'll stay with what I've got, searching the entire IA.

If anyone has any clever ways for software, after getting hits from IA 
"advanced search", can figure out what formats the hit is available in, 
and direct URLs to those formats -- do let me know. Or for that matter, 
if any of you IA developers wanted to add that to the IA advanced search 
XML/JSON response, like it was, I think, added to OL Books API response, 
that would certainly be awesome.

Jonathan

On 2/2/2011 3:39 PM, raj kumar wrote:
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
>> Right, good point. Yeah, just considering monographs. I'm curious how many 
>> monograph full text items might be in IA but not OL.  And I got some answer, 
>> user-uploaded and millionbooks aren't in OL. (Probably Gutenberg are also 
>> not in OL?).   IA-scanned and Google-scanned are in OL.
> The Gutenberg books that are hosted on IA don't have marc records and aren't 
> imported to OL:
> http://www.archive.org/details/gutenberg
>
> Also, I know books digitized from microfilm are also not imported into OL. 
> About a third of the archive.org microfilm collection appears to be books: 
> http://www.archive.org/details/microfilm
>
> There are 2.6M text items on archive.org, and "more than 2 million" imported 
> into OL. The difference is mostly due to court docs (430K items) and 
> microfilm (95K items).
>
> If you are currently querying the archive.org advanced search engine as an 
> api, you can continue to do so. It returns results in JSON and XML, and will 
> continue to be supported (scroll down for instructions): 
> http://www.archive.org/advancedsearch.php
>
> -raj
>
>> Hmm, maybe I'm better off just sticking with the hacky but mostly kind of 
>> working solution I have now against IA directly.
>>
>> I'd like to use the OL Books api instead, yes, because of the added features 
>> it offers, including lookup by identifiers like ISBN, and more clear 
>> response as to what versions of full text may be available. (Thanks for 
>> that!). But if I do that, I trade off having access to a smaller corpus of 
>> full text. Hmm.
>>
>>> -raj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'm new to this list. I have a question about Internet Archive books. Is
>>>>> every Internet Archive book represented in the Open Library, or is it
>>>>> only some of them?
>>>> As of now every IA book that has a marc record gets into Open Library.
>>>>
>>>> Anand
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