Hi Pascal, On 29 March 2012 11:37, Pascal Christoph <[email protected]> wrote: > Am Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:53:56 +0200 schrieb [email protected] : > >> On 28 March 2012 14:19, Pascal Christoph <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Am Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:19:46 +0200 schrieb [email protected] : >>> [snip] > >> Anyway, I wasn't proposing to go through all GND IDs and trying to >> match them, just the ones that already have a link to VIAF. If <DNB >> URI> owl:sameAs <VIAF URI> it is easy :) DNB offers a file with CC0'd >> RDF about people at > > then you are on the good site because they identify only *persons*. > >> https://wiki.d-nb.de/display/LDS/Dokumentation+des+Linked+Data+Services+der+DNB >> although I keep getting HTTP 500 errors trying to request those files. > > which one? (And also, think of comment that on the dnb-wiki).
I already sent an email to the webmaster (as it said on the error page), but I may also add a comment. The PND of April, part 1 doesn't work for me: http://datendienst.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/mabit.pl?cmd=fetch&userID=testdat&pass=testdat&mabheft=PNDrdf_1.zip > > BTW, you may want to use our SPARQL-endpoint, we have an index of the gnd. It > is based on an old dump, though, I think it was April 2011: > > curl -d 'query= > SELECT * FROM <http://lobid.org/gnd/> WHERE { > <http://d-nb.info/gnd/100063462> ?p ?o . > } > ' http://lobid.org/sparql/ > > (this is rather unofficial and experimental. Ping me if it breaks. ) It seems you have the data I wanted to download then :) SELECT * FROM <http://lobid.org/gnd/> WHERE { ?s <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#sameAs> ?o . } LIMIT 10 gives some promising results. >> The example file does show that there are owl:sameAs links in the RDF. > >> So in lobid.org, you treat the name as an RDF resource (that has a GND >> URI)? Interesting. No offense intended, but does that make more sense >> than using the literal value? > > its all about linking, isn't it ;) > I mean, if it *is* an RDF ressource we can lookup its literal (actually we > *do* > that for subjects , see http://lobid.org/resource/HT014337912 (eng:subject = > ger:Schlagwort)). > But you are right, if we cannot make a lookup it does not make sense. So we > are in hope that the dnb will also provide rdf for these name-identifiers. It > would have had the advantage that if there are more ways to write down a name > ("Goethe, Gethe, Göthe ..." ) we would not have to curate that by ourself. > And we just telephoned with the dnb and there will be RDF for the > not-individualised identifiers within the next month ! :) Hmm, that does make sense :) And great news that DNB will offer more RDF! >> What if there are several Friedrich >> Schillers and the names are split by the DNB into several persons? > > that is an important todo. Not that easy to do, though. If solved, it could > help to create an authority file of publishers which I would love to see. > >> I have been thinking to do something similar when I'm ready to publish >> my family tree as RDF, to relate names to their origins. But I am not >> sure whether I would use foaf:name to connect name and person, as >> foaf:name seems to be 'designed' for literals. > > Didn't get that. If you want to connect name and person that would be what you > want: "name" is a literal and "person" the individualised URI of the person, > e.g.: > > <http://d-nb.info/gnd/135539897> > <http://d-nb.info/gnd/preferredNameForThePerson> "Elgin, Catherine Z." . > I want to connect names to names ("this name comes from that name") and names to persons, so I'll have to treat names as resources too. But that's for another discussion/mailing list. > -o Ben > _______________________________________________ > Ol-tech mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > [email protected] _______________________________________________ Ol-tech mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
